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Old 07-19-2017, 12:11 PM
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Default 1991 Topps info. for those just as crazy as I am

I know a few people are into the 91 Topps, and I decided to actually keep track of some stuff when I opened a box recently. First box of anything I've opened in a long time except for blasters.

Anyway, except for the first couple packs, here's the order the cards were in.
they were all in the pack with the back facing back and the ones in front of the insert with the back facing front. except for two cards that were in reversed, indicated with an r after the number. A bunch of the cards were damaged from the gum, some the gum wouldn't come off at all. the rest were anywhere from almost totally wrecked to barely stained at all.
back to insert, front to insert
202,590,548,782,606,13,48,453/129,600,776,383,749,301,632
705,785,587,745,80,719,736,351,/225,429,641,549,604,355,779,
193,62,601,516,192,695,655,175/364,369,209,757,696,349,261,
690,195,523,155,44,39,479,509,/392,64,294,688,433,588,280
719,736,351,343,489,462,265,100/612,572,416,662,628,615,325,
385,743,464,440,252,332,223,71,/723,239,172,575,761,283,487,
637,314,235,665,422,463,524,670,/500,260,477,112,339,318,656
683,165,650,10,573,584,755,53,/301,632,49,520,263,685,636,
270,447,189,700,756,513,88,621,/211,702,129,600,776,383,749,
445,191,248,164,179,293,538,218,/393,304,354,767,526,408,539,
639,421,217,705,785,587,745,80,/506,32,75,407,733,381,330
746,95,619,86,370,378,657,585,/678,652,744,403,531,255,56,
552,105,583,94,353,121,789,732,/754,204,87,577,361,612,572
533,460,141,249,262,66,770,104,/101,20,16,5,706,735,119
134,29,432,409,108,221,21.671,/676,323,342,224,444,135,233,
183,276,522,472,535,672,199,647,/416,662,628,615,325,506,32
268,40,608,418,96,751,271,738,/75,407,733,381,330,393,304
710,173,52,68,144,791,168,54,/354,767,526,408,539,211,702
164,179,293,538,218,639,421,217,/161,49,520,263,685,636,149,
677,728,109,783,186,530,382,28,/149,34,557,387,58,691,503,
221,420,475,85,185,83,120,624,/466,568,493,537,57,394,474,
775,170,47,89,43,716,187,439,/623,425,291,402,182,711,661
459,731,543,190,483,379,642,305,/529,334,231,405,176,684,400
158,250,373,511,781,208,740,595,/286,146,427,246,614,174,467,
700,756,513,88,621,445,191,248./34,557,387,58,691,503,500
583,94,585,134,29,340,746,95,/136,534,747,629r,313r,70d
82,243,145,490,574,27,350,762,/676,323,765,342,224,444
336,114,321,360,598,674,232,212,/135,233,678,652,744,403,531
279,71,137,81,718,385,743,464,/198,471,560,669,599,259,22
440,252,332,223,296,637,314,235,/668,241,699,23,2,389,126,
665,422,563,524,670,677,728,109,/607,9,397,130,766,17,7
783,186,530,382,28,683,165,650,/239,172,575,761,283,487,171
10,573,584,755,53,270,447,189,/260,477,112,339,318,656,723

12 totally ruined by gum

And here's the list of variations that were there. Most I think were really common. The list I used was from Junkwax gems, (best list, in many ways better than the list I made myself years ago. ) with an addition or two from another online source. There were a few I thought could be unlisted, one I'm very confident about, the others I have to compare to what I've already got. I marked those with * before the card number.
I didn't see any with the spot in the 4 of the 40th logo.
And I haven't checked the backs with the blacklight yet.
I also didn't look much for *a*b varieties, I don't think there were any unless they're below.
One other bit of odd info. All the a and b sheet cards had dark blue, the rest were lighter.

2a George Brett RB incomplete circle around registration symbol on back
9a Darrin Fletcher missing print code on back
21c Joe Morgan MGR with 187 hits on back, 1 printed lower than 87
22c Storm Davis with registration symbol removed from front
48a Oil Can Boyd with hand over 40th anniversary flag
49b Pat Borders 86 Kingston SB totals: 0
80a Fernando Valenzuela missing diamond after 104 runs in 1990*
83a Daryl Boston A*B* print code
100b Don Mattingly 101 hits in 1990
101a Rob Ducey registration symbol printed close to BLUE JAYS in team banner
119a Carl Nichols copyright printed high
155a Dwight Evans 162 games has diamond, A* print code on back
*235 dave parker 78 avg mark between 3 and 4 ?
248 tom gordon 8 in card number clipped right top
270b Mark McGwire SLG .618, A* print code
277a Scott Coolbaugh “feather” in cap
279a Jose Gonzalez Billy Bean photo, left handed
346c Jesse Orosco 5 in 85 stats machine-printed
378b Wilson Alvarez 1989 Port Charles stats included
445b Greg Swindell small registration symbol in banner
459b Tom Trebelhorn MGR B* print code
513b Jerald Clark left photo frame solid orange color
526b Moises Alou 0 runs in 1990
*533 oddibe mc dowell white line through v of braves and into ll of name
573c Rich Rodriguez mark removed, natural colored glove laces
588b Mark Whiten hand inside photo/border
599b Greg Myers 1990 Syracuse stats (not) missing
*607 edgar martinez 7 has clipped ur corner
610a Andres Galarraga white space between glove and bottom left border
614a Luis Salazar missing small amount of black ink in bottom right of photo frame
615b Bert Blyleven MAJ. LEA in small print under stats on back
656a Checklist Palacios 438
673b Greg Olson helmet touches top border
674 kevin gross cor 89bb in 88 led league
676a Scott Chiamparino E*F* print code
677b Billy Ripken A* print code
678b Mark Davidson stats fully printed on back
683b Derek Lilliquist small registration symbol in team banner
685b Doug Drabek black inner photo frame/border
690b Orel Hershiser black border fully printed
695b Kevin Seitzer blue top photo frame border
696a Steve Olin E*F* print code
702b Tim Naehring green circle airbrushed away
706 Brad Arnsberg 62.2 innings in 1990, 138 innings career, 3.39 career era
740a Ryne Sandberg period before name on front


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Old 07-19-2017, 12:21 PM
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Steve-- no variations in insert or game cards ? Any older insert cards ?

Still need 3 of the game cards if they exist

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I didn't check yet, but I did put them in number order. All the ones in the box were the same. Mostly D numbers, but with some A -C numbers.

No other year cards. Never pulled one even back then.

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Old 07-20-2017, 09:06 AM
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As has been discussed elsewhere here, I believe the 1991 set has more variants than any other Topps set, by far. I doubt a complete list of all possible card combinations exists and may never exist. For awhile I tried to keep up with all the differences but gave up.

I much appreciate you sharing the info above. I think it is a fascinating set. I have several unopened boxes but have never opened one. I think it would be fun to find any older card in a pack, even if it were a VG common.

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Old 07-20-2017, 01:30 PM
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Go for some of the current Topps series 2 then.

Got some today. 2 big packs, one blaster, two old cards. Both mid 80's commons, but with a "rediscover Topps" foil stamping. Ordinarily I'd say the stamping ruined them, but they're penny cards anyway, so I suppose it's cool.

I did get a few redemptions in the 2011? diamond anniversary set.
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Great info Steve. I am another one that loves this stuff but there is way too much going on with this set for me to collect it.

Here is a pic of one of my stranger 91 cards. In hand it looks to just be missing the red ink on the back. The light yellow tint is only noticeable in pictures of the card taken outside in sunlight.

The entire front and back of the card glows brightly under a black light.
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Anyone know where the guys in the white coats took Peter. We could chip in and send him a couple of variants to cheer him up
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I'm breaking a full case of 1987 Donruss and writing down the sequence of every card.
^^^

What happens when the smart kid who became a lawyer hangs out with the weird mechanic kid and then runs into a slow spot in business.

Pretty much all the junkwax sets are like this, to me fascinating and so cheap I can collect a whole lot of them. Unfortunately they're also a huge time waster, and outside of a handful of cards are unlikely to be worth much in my lifetime.
They are a bit fun though.

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