Willie Mays Conspiracy Theory

[jimjim]

I have had this thought for some time, but never asked for opinions and maybe you guys have the answer.

I find it odd that the Willie Mays in-person autos I have seen from recent card shows are sloppy and not aligned (which makes sense since he is almost blind), and the autos authenticated by Say Hey always look perfect and sell for a fraction of his in-person prices.

Has anybody ever seen him sign for Say Hey? Is that really his company?

Just wondering...

[isaac2004]

Originally Posted by jimjim

I have had this thought for some time, but never asked for opinions and maybe you guys have the answer.

I find it odd that the Willie Mays in-person autos I have seen from recent card shows are sloppy and not aligned (which makes sense since he is almost blind), and the autos authenticated by Say Hey always look perfect and sell for a fraction of his in-person prices.

Has anybody ever seen him sign for Say Hey? Is that really his company?

Just wondering...

I would not be shocked if they had 1000s of balls he signed years ago in a warehouse waiting to be put in the market. When he ultimately cannot sign anymore, you will see way more of them

[joed25]

I have seen a number of Willie Mays baseballs with say hey holograms that are fakes.

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by joed25

I have seen a number of Willie Mays baseballs with say hey holograms that are fakes.

Can you please explain?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by jimjim

Can you please explain?

There are also a ton of Jeter forgeries with Steiner holograms and the sellers NEVER have the Steiner cert card.

[jimjim]

I wonder if that is why Steiner has changed their hologram sticker that now has a serial number on it.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

There are also a ton of Jeter forgeries with Steiner holograms and the sellers NEVER have the Steiner cert card.

AH, a whole new branch of the industry has opened up. The hologram forger.
How nice of them to share their skills with the rest of us.
I am waiting for an auction on ebay to appear offering these holograms.
"Create your own fakes, Opening Bid $9.99."

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by isaac2004

I would not be shocked if they had 1000s of balls he signed years ago in a warehouse waiting to be put in the market. When he ultimately cannot sign anymore, you will see way more of them

Musial has a similar "warehouse" full of his autos.

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Musial has a similar "warehouse" full of his autos.

I am not so sure about that. If you look at the quality of the signatures that are coming out of St. Louis, they look like they have been recently signed. If they had a warehouse of items that were signed prior to his illness, then why aren't we seeing any of them? I am sure there are some items that are in back stock, but most of the autographed baseballs that are now being sold have barely legible signatures indicating they were signed recently.

[cubsfan-budman]

I hear what you're saying...but I know for sure that there are "Stan the Man" hologram'd items that Musial has in storage that are for sale as well.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

I hear what you're saying...but I know for sure that there are "Stan the Man" hologram'd items that Musial has in storage that are for sale as well.

You mean that Musial's kids have in storage....

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by jimjim

I am not so sure about that. If you look at the quality of the signatures that are coming out of St. Louis, they look like they have been recently signed. If they had a warehouse of items that were signed prior to his illness, then why aren't we seeing any of them? I am sure there are some items that are in back stock, but most of the autographed baseballs that are now being sold have barely legible signatures indicating they were signed recently.

The latest Stan sigs I saw from Steiner were quite sad.

That said, I suppose they may have stockpiled a family inventory that has not been released. Joe DiMaggio signed a ton of items that were expressly for the purpose of release after his death.

[isaac2004]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

The latest Stan sigs I saw from Steiner were quite sad.

That said, I suppose they may have stockpiled a family inventory that has not been released. Joe DiMaggio signed a ton of items that were expressly for the purpose of release after his death.

I could not imagine how sad that conversation probably went. Happened to Williams too, when will people step in and stop these families from abusing elderly legends for their valuable signatures, even to the point to make them sign all day knowing that the item will be worth more after the player passes.

Makes me sick