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Old 04-15-2017, 05:35 AM
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You bring up the Ryan, but the newspaper Sports Stamps issues are also graded from the 1930s. So there is precedent for grading newspaper cuts. The main question is whether or not the cut is intended to be clipped and collected. If the Ryan was not intended to be collected, I would agree with you that it's in error.

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Maybe that's what happened to the mastero Wagner, PSA was like it has to be trimmed in order for us to grade it.lol
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Old 04-15-2017, 01:08 PM
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The hobby would be much better if they didn't grade things that wouldn't fit without trimming.
Agree. I don't understand why they don't just make larger slabs like SGC. They can't even grade the 54 All star photo pack but they grade small cutouts from transogram boxes...and coasters and business cards etc
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Old 04-15-2017, 01:48 PM
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You bring up the Ryan, but the newspaper Sports Stamps issues are also graded from the 1930s. So there is precedent for grading newspaper cuts. The main question is whether or not the cut is intended to be clipped and collected. If the Ryan was not intended to be collected, I would agree with you that it's in error.

http://www.psacard.com/pop/multi-spo...and-cut/120573
Then you should agree on the Ryan, as it was not intended to be cut--it was part of a story. How PSA does not know that, or at least that there are no Sporting News stamps with which this might be confused, is inexcusable. And then there's the magazine ad.
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Old 04-15-2017, 02:52 PM
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Default PSA is a VERY imperfect company

With a VERY imperfect system. That said, most including myself choose to send them money to grade what we send them to keep their system profitable and going. That said, I accept their imperfection - kick and scream at them (translated - respectfully communicate with them) when I believe they have done something imperfect and hope for the best. On the sell side, I have made money thanks to PSA. On the buy side - as has been stated countless times - buy the card, not the holder!! All of that said - that Ryan cutout is beyond ridiculous. As is the magazine cut out, the post Mantle, the piecing out of the 68 Bazookas and Transogram boxes, etc.
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Makes you wonder, why PSA didn't grade this one??
PROBSTEIN HIGH-END
Pretty sure ITS TRIMMED!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-3...0AAOSwls5Y7ACk

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Makes you wonder, why PSA didn't grade this one??
PROBSTEIN HIGH-END
Pretty sure ITS TRIMMED!!!
Looks like the same butcher got a hold of this one too.

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