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Old 01-15-2016, 10:45 PM
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That's a huge help Steve (let me know if you're interested in selling that one)

With that confirmation I am now six cards shy of confirming the 88

(Bonds, Hrabosky, Jones, Kranepool, Rogers, and Staub)
This thread is three and a half years old so I don't know if there have been any new discoveries of the six unconfirmed 1978 wiffle discs, but I found two of them, Ed Kranepool and Steve Rogers on a wiffle bat and ball holder. I think that it's pretty safe to say that the remaining four players, hitters Bobby Bonds and Rusty Staub and pitchers Al Hrabosky and Randy Jones, will eventually be found on two more of these wiffle bat and ball holders.
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Old 01-16-2016, 01:12 PM
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Thanks for the new info. Going 3 1/2 years without new info shows how frustrating this set is.

If your interested in selling that sleeve let me know.
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Unrelated question - if the cards were MLB licensed, why are there no logos on the caps?
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Old 01-18-2016, 02:04 PM
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Licensing at the time was a lot less organized than it is now. The MLB license if I recall it right was only for the team names and the player likenesses in general, the team logos had to be licensed through the teams and the individual players had control over their own images.

Licensing then was also a lot less expensive and less controlled.

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Licensing at the time was a lot less organized than it is now. The MLB license if I recall it right was only for the team names and the player likenesses in general, the team logos had to be licensed through the teams and the individual players had control over their own images.

Licensing then was also a lot less expensive and less controlled.

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I have to disagree with part of this. MLB was licensing the team logos in 1978. From 1968-86 , all national licensing contracts were handled by MLBPC through the Licensing Corporation of America (LCA), a division of Warner Communications, Inc. During this period, Clubs licensed their own trademarks to companies authorized to sell in the Clubs' respective local markets and MLBPC handled the National contracts.

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I have to disagree with part of this. MLB was licensing the team logos in 1978. From 1968-86 , all national licensing contracts were handled by MLBPC through the Licensing Corporation of America (LCA), a division of Warner Communications, Inc. During this period, Clubs licensed their own trademarks to companies authorized to sell in the Clubs' respective local markets and MLBPC handled the National contracts.
Ok, That makes sense.

I can't imagine Whiffle being local, although they were in RI I think, so I'm in their local area.

Maybe MSA didn't license the logos?
Or didn't use them to keep consistent with older art they already had?

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Old 06-13-2016, 09:21 PM
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Another one has popped up on eBay, a 1978 bat and ball holder with Rusty Staub and Randy Jones. The only two unaccounted for now are Bobby Bonds and Al Hrabosky, which will undoubtedly show up on one of these bat and ball sleeves.
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Why does PSA slab the wiffle ball as 1976 but have them listed under 1978?
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Unrelated question - if the cards were MLB licensed, why are there no logos on the caps?
The logo is the MLBPA logo, not the MLB logo.
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:27 PM
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Why does PSA slab the wiffle ball as 1976 but have them listed under 1978?
That Al Hrabosky wiffle disc is almost certainly a 1977, not a 1978. 1977's are die cut and were inserted in the boxes, 1978's were on the box itself and were meant to be cut out. ETA, all wiffle discs are either from 1977 (die cut) or from 1978 (printed on the box or the bat and ball sleeve), but they all have a 1976 copyright which is why they are sometimes referred to mistakenly as being from 1976.

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