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Old 04-13-2017, 02:28 PM
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I have a PSA 6 Willie Mays 1951 Bowman that I believe presents much closer to a 7. The centering is by far the biggest issue but I have found other 7s that have the same or even worse centering. My question to the PSA gurus is, what is the best way to submit for and actually receive a bump in grade?

This is a side by side (the 7 isn't mine so cameras/scanners are different but tried to make them as close to the same size as possible).


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Old 04-13-2017, 03:02 PM
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I would definitely send this particular card for review in the holder even if I were not seeking a bump because, at least in this photo, the holder seems to be frosted all the way around, and I would want the peace of mind that it is real, or to know from PSA if it isn't.

I hope this thread ends with everyone laughing at me for raising a false alarm, but that level of frosting would greatly concern me.
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:50 PM
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I would definitely send this particular card for review in the holder even if I were not seeking a bump because, at least in this photo, the holder seems to be frosted all the way around, and I would want the peace of mind that it is real, or to know from PSA if it isn't.

I hope this thread ends with everyone laughing at me for raising a false alarm, but that level of frosting would greatly concern me.
Already did

My scanner just doesn't take very clear pictures so used the one I took with my phone before I had it recased.


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Old 04-13-2017, 03:51 PM
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The last time I tried to reholder and review a card at PSA I was told they no longer offer that service. One or the other. This seems to defy logic as the best time to review a card would be when it is out of the old holder waiting to go into the new one.

As for your Mays, the 7 you compare to looks like a very old flip. It is widely believed that standards are tougher now especially on centering. I would not expect the card to bump.

Your best chance at a bump is to crack and resubmit. That would be too risky for me on this type of card.
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:58 PM
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Already did

My scanner just doesn't take very clear pictures so used the one I took with my phone before I had it recased.
Well that's great! Happy to have my concerns be unfounded.

I agree I wouldn't have the guts to crack it out.
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:03 PM
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The last time I tried to reholder and review a card at PSA I was told they no longer offer that service. One or the other. This seems to defy logic as the best time to review a card would be when it is out of the old holder waiting to go into the new one.

As for your Mays, the 7 you compare to looks like a very old flip. It is widely believed that standards are tougher now especially on centering. I would not expect the card to bump.

Your best chance at a bump is to crack and resubmit. That would be too risky for me on this type of card.
Yeah, when I sent it in for reholder, that was my primary concern as I bought it from someone I had never worked with before. Now the more I look at it the more I want to see if it'll bump as card is absolutely stunning aside from the centering. Based off the PSA standards, a 7 must be 25/75 which I believe this to be right at that.
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:34 PM
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It certainly doesn't hurt to try other than submission and shipping fees. If you think it has a chance go for it. I would submit in the holder unless you really feel like gambling.
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:51 PM
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I have a PSA 6 Willie Mays 1951 Bowman that I believe presents much closer to a 7. The centering is by far the biggest issue but I have found other 7s that have the same or even worse centering. My question to the PSA gurus is, what is the best way to submit for and actually receive a bump in grade?

This is a side by side (the 7 isn't mine so cameras/scanners are different but tried to make them as close to the same size as possible).

The 6 is the nicer looking card...only caveat is that the 7 was an earlier graded card using lower standards. The 6 deserves a 1/2 grade bump...but maybe not w/tougher standards.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:34 AM
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Others have already suggested that if you're going to send it back, then to submit in current holder b/c it's too risky not to; I would say submit it in the holder since it's the RIGHT thing to do. I've never agreed with the self-cracking game and never will. I think it's selfish and screwing up the hobby.
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You can attach some extra cash and tape it to the back of the holder.
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