Tuesday Trivia: Oldies but Goodies

[cgjackson222]

Name the player with the highest total batting average (.321) during his 40s (minimum of 1,240 plate appearances as per Baseball Reference).

[clydepepper]

First guesses: Cobb or Molitor.

[clydepepper]

Those were wrong...I know who it was now, but I cheated, so I won't reveal.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

First guesses: Cobb or Molitor.

Cobb is a great guess. I believe he had the highest single season batting average for anyone in his 40s when he hit .357 at age 40.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Cobb is a great guess. I believe he had the highest single season batting average for anyone in his 40s when he hit .357 at age 40.

But, he didn't have the required plate appearances; the other guy (not Molitor) did.

[Butch7999]

The Splinter?

ed.: Just checked, and... nope, not even close...

[BobbyStrawberry]

Cap Anson?

[Mark17]

Keeler?

Never mind, he didn't play that long.

[cgjackson222]

Clue #1: He started out as a pitcher, and in his second major league outing, got the Detroit Tigers out in order in two innings of relief. According to the Washington Post, “He got Ty Cobb on a sickly fly to left, fanned Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach, and caused George Burns to foul out. Any time a pitcher can dispose of this quartet so easily, he must have something other than a glove and a pleasant smile.”

[BobbyStrawberry]

Wow, he beat out Anson by four percentage points!

(I wouldn't have guessed it)

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Wow, he beat out Anson by four percentage points!

(I wouldn't have guessed it)

Yeah, Anson was a really good guess. Anson dominates the counting stats (total runs, hits, doubles, RBIs, BBs etc) for players in their 40s , since he played through when he was 45 and had the most At Bats/Plate Appearances, but Anson does not lead many of the rate statistics.

[cgjackson222]

Clue #2 He still shares the all-time American League record (with Joe Jackson) for most consecutive multi-hit games, 11, which he accomplished during the 1925 season. Also in 1925, his 182 singles set an AL record, which lasted until Willie Wilson broke it 1980 with 184.

[cgjackson222]

Clue # 3 In addition to his regular season exploits in 1925, he had some postseason ones as well. His 12 hits (all singles) in the 1925 World Series tied a record that was not surpassed until 1964, when Bobby Richardson of the Yankees managed a 13-hit series (a record since tied by Lou Brock in 1968 and Marty Barrett in 1986).

He made a spectacular and disputed catch in Game 3 of the 1925 World Series, when he jumped for a long fly ball by Earl Smith, fell into the stands and disappeared from view, re-emerging with the ball in his glove some 15 seconds later. The umpires called Smith out, to much controversy, and for years he would only state that "the umpire said I caught it" when asked if he had made the catch. It was one of the most famous plays in World Series history, and his silence helped to fuel the mystique around it. He signed an affidavit (opened after his death) that stated “At no time did I lose possession of the ball.”

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Clue # 3 In addition to his regular season exploits in 1925, he had some postseason ones as well. His 12 hits (all singles) in the 1925 World Series tied a record that was not surpassed until 1964, when Bobby Richardson of the Yankees managed a 13-hit series (a record since tied by Lou Brock in 1968 and Marty Barrett in 1986).

He made a spectacular and disputed catch in Game 3 of the 1925 World Series, when he jumped for a long fly ball by Earl Smith, fell into the stands and disappeared from view, re-emerging with the ball in his glove some 15 seconds later. The umpires called Smith out, to much controversy, and for years he would only state that "the umpire said I caught it" when asked if he had made the catch. It was one of the most famous plays in World Series history, and his silence helped to fuel the mystique around it. He signed an affidavit (opened after his death) that stated “At no time did I lose possession of the ball.”

You had me at Clue #2 - or rather, I had him...great one...certainly not steamed or puffed.

[Cliff Bowman]

I cheated and looked it up. When he was 22 his wife, his two young kids, his mother and father, and his two younger sisters were all killed by a tornado. He never told his future wife and two step kids about it, they found out when he was asked about it in an interview 53 years after it happened.

[cgjackson222]

Answer: Sam Rice batted .321 in his 1,714 at bats during his 40s, including .349 at age 40. That year, he had 207 hits and is still the only player in baseball history to do so during his 40s.
He played until he was 44, when het batted .293, the lowest batting average of his career.

In addition to having the highest total batting average, he ranks in the top 10 in many statistical categories for players in their 40s (for those with 1,240 Plate Appearances), including:

1st in At Bats per Strikeout (36.5)
2nd in Doubles (95), Triples (32) and Runs (327)
3rd in hits (551) and Runs Created (271)
4th in OPS (.801) and Total Bases (722)
5th in games played (543), At Bats, and On Base % (.379)
6th in Slugging (.421)
9th in Stolen Bases (31)


Ty Cobb has the highest single season batting average for someone in their 40s (.357 when he was 40 in 1927), but he only played until he was 41, so he doesn't qualify per Baseball Reference standards requiring 1,240 plate appearances.

A few other tidbits about Sam Rice:

1) Before starting his baseball career he had married, had two daughters, and then lost his entire family when a devastating tornado swept through his hometown of Morocco, IN in April of 1912 (he was away trying to win a job with a team in Galesburg, IL at the time).

2) Bereft of relatives, he drifted around the country for a couple of years, joined the Navy, then was discharged in 1915 to play for the Petersburg Goobers of the Virginia League, where he both pitched and played the outfield. The team's owner had a $600 debt to Senators owner Clark Griffith, and unable to repay it, gave him his best player as compensation. When he arrived in Washington, Griffith could not remember his first name - Edgar - and told reporters he had obtained "Samuel Rice". The name "Sam" then stuck for the rest of his life.

3) Rice was the first player to hit an inside the park home run at Yankee Stadium. He had 21 career inside the park home runs, 9 of which occurred at Griffith Stadium in Washington, DC. He never hit a single home run over the fence at Griffith Stadium.

4) Joe Judge and Sam Rice played together as Nationals for 18 consecutive seasons, a teammate longevity record they held until it was tied by George Brett and Frank White of the Kansas City Royals in 1990, and passed by Allen Trammel and Lou Whitaker of the Detroit Tigers in 1995.

5) After baseball, Rice returned to the simple life; he was the owner of a chicken farm near Olney, Maryland. During World War II, he employed Japanese-Americans who were relocated from their homes on the West Coast due to the unfortunate government policies at the time.

6) Rice stayed close with his teammates after baseball, many of whom bought farms near Washington DC after retiring. They frequently got together, but as time went on, many of those get together were funerals, including those of Eddie Foster in 1937, Ray Morgan in 1940, Walter Johnson in 1946, Clark Griffith in 1955, Jim Shaw, the pitcher who Rice replaced on the mound in his major league debut, in 1962, Joe Judge in 1963, and Nick Altrock in 1965.