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https://www.huntauctions.com/live/im...=314&lot_qual= |
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there is a 100,000+ premium on the better centered cards though |
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yeah why does everyone assume cards in the same grade will sell for the same price? Still big time variations at the sgc/psa "8" grade level
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Everyone is talking about PSA 8 Mantles so it seems like you'd only have to worry about manipulation at the highest level, which doesn't really have much of an affect on most collectors. If you want to manipulate at the low level, it'll take you forever to do it. In summation, I'd like to posit that it won't ever matter much to most of us.
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could be just the scans but the lower realized priced 8 looks washed out vs. the top one. It's also in an old holder. Why wouldn't the AH reholder it before selling? dumb
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I would be scared to send a 400k card in the mail for a 20 dollar holder...but assuming people with that type of money have their ways
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It is doable though. Case in point that (thankfully former) member here who is cornering the market on 1952 Topps Cole Bartirome cards.
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Everything is do-able but what was the pay off? He'd have to sell only a few a year if he wanted to maintain the value. If he were to sell off his collection he'd dilute the market again. And if he didn't acquire a majority of the copies, he probably helped other people make money who already had the card.
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Why individuals?
Who's to say that the bulk of the money is coming in from individuals? The secrecy of auctions makes that hard to substantiate. There is a lot of cash held in private equity firms, and it may be that they are market participants as they are looking for high rate of return investments. No evidence of collusion to drive up prices, either. I think that, like any market, there will be a severe correction as supply outstrips demand, and even the vaunted Mantles will take a hard fall. When price growth is following an exponetial trend, watch out!
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Yes, I do believe this hobby is getting pushed hard by a limited number of collector/investors. Not sure exactly how many heavy investors there are, but I’d say the people most responsible number more than 10 and probably less than 30. This sentence freaked me out for some reason. More than 10 and probably less than 30? Really? I would love to find out who these people are. So in 2016 these guys just suddenly went nuts buying cards and then stopped? Quote:
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The Hunt example was poorly centered, and in an old flip.
The Heritage example was not well centered, and corners looked a little soft. |
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So if both cards have their faults what do you equate the almost $400K difference in price?
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Every time I buy a 300k card I look for the following:
Oh wait.... 300k. Lol. Lol.
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These guys paying 500k for a '52 Mantle could almost lose a decent "house" of value on the downside.
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Leon, I'm nearly a millionaire anyway. I have all the zeroes, just searching for a 1.
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You got any of them n series non sport and boxing in there? |
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1 less bidder
1 less bidder can make all the difference.
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The Heritage example was not well centered?? Seriously??
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I think he was referring to the one sold over the weekend. The one pictured above is extremely well centered, imo.
Aaron, I agree, if one less bidder gets taken from the equation, prices can vary greatly. Tony |
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Oh, I see.
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