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Old 06-01-2016, 08:26 AM
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I always try to ignore the holder and look at the card, and this latest acquisition seems to fit right into that philosophy. I will take 6's like this all day long over most 7's I see:

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Nice pickup. I agree with you. I collect 52 topps, and centering for me is key. If I had a choice between a perfectly centered PSA 6 and an average PSA 8, and they were for the same price, I'd buy the PSA 6 every time.
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I agree Adam. As someone who is going to trade in top notch cards the VCP and other guide prices can be thrown out the window. I prefer the ebay advanced functions for past sales as well as Google and Pricerealized.com, as opposed to VCP, as they are free.
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Nice Adam. Any chance you send it in and try for an upgrade?
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This is nicer than the 7 I used to own.
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This is nicer than the 7 I used to own.
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Nice Adam. Any chance you send it in and try for an upgrade?
Nope. I don't really care about the flip. If I enjoy the card I feel that much better if it is a 6 because it means I paid less for it. Let someone else try to bump it; if I sell they can pay me for the bump potential.

Leon, I use VCP to get a baseline read on a card. It does allow click-throughs to recent eBay completed listings, which is helpful. I usually check the low and high sales to see if there was some reason I can spot for the out of the norm price. I paid more for this card than VCP average for a 6 because the centering and registration made the card really look good to me. I imagine the toning on the back accounts for the technical grade.

here is my favorite example of a technical grade I don't care about:



I got the card for a song. The back is miscut, but who can read the back of a 1975 Topps BK card anyway?
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I always try to ignore the holder and look at the card, and this latest acquisition seems to fit right into that philosophy. I will take 6's like this all day long over most 7's I see:
Nice 6. There are a lot of nice 6s out there these days with the toughening grading standards and unless you have really keen youthful vision you need a loupe to see the difference from a 7.
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It would go really nicely with that overpriced Williams card.
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Some sweet looking mid grade cards being posted. Here is very nice looking PSA 2 Bowman Willie Mays. The nicest 2 I have seen. Decent centering with sharp corners. Love the Palmer rookie.

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I got the card for a song. The back is miscut, but who can read the back of a 1975 Topps BK card anyway?
The same people who seem to be able to read internet sites on the tiny viewing area of an iphone.
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Some sweet looking mid grade cards being posted. Here is very nice looking PSA 2 Bowman Willie Mays. The nicest 2 I have seen. Decent centering with sharp corners. Love the Palmer rookie.
Huh? How'd that Mays get a 2?

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Here is my contribution. I've never seen a PSA 3 or 4 I liked as much as my 2. I did eventually also buy a PSA 5.

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Not 100% sure but the back of the card has some potential issues but I'm not sure it would knock it down to a PSA 2. Here is the back. Maybe it has a miscut qualifier along with a mark qualifier and the original submitter asked for no qualifiers. That is the best I can come up with.
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Nice 6. There are a lot of nice 6s out there these days with the toughening grading standards and unless you have really keen youthful vision you need a loupe to see the difference from a 7.
Pete,

You are spot on. Since PSA has tightened up their grading, there are some very nice 6's and 7's that rival 8's or 9's, and can be had for a fraction of the cost. Just buying a grade after that.
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Great thread, better cards. I got this one for $25. OC sure, top to bottom, but come on now. The tilt is just how the card is in the holder, and OC with the black horizontal borders doesn't detract to my eye. I will take this one all day long.
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Beautiful cards all around. A couple of tiny, barely noticeable spots of glue on the back is responsible for the technical grade here.

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What the hell is with these 49 Bowmans in 2 holders? Great examples.
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at least they're getting the 0.5 grade bump for being 'superior for technical grade'...
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Back is just as good as the front.
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Back is just as good as the front.
That is a nice looking but miscut card. Is it your thought it's under-graded, or just has great eye appeal for the grade?
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Who needs a PSA 6 when I can own this at a FRACTION of the price. (I wish I had more cards to share but I sold them all to buy this!) haha
Not too many nicer 4s...

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That is a nice looking but miscut card. Is it your thought it's under-graded, or just has great eye appeal for the grade?
Never said that it wasn't miscut, just pretty darn good looking compared to what I think of with miscut cards. I would have cracked it if I thought otherwise.
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I picked up the Ford because it was selling cheap since it was labeled as OC. I don't see it myself. And I picked up the Williams because it was nicer than the 6's I was seeing.
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Some first generation PSA cards are graded oc because of the back.
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Some first generation PSA cards are graded oc because of the back.
Ok, here's the back. The scan is a bit squashed looking, but you get the idea.
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