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Old 11-08-2012, 03:02 PM
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Default Show off your AMERICAN BEAUTY's....T205's and/or T206's

This thread is devoted to the mysterious AMERICAN BEAUTY T206 cards or the very elusive T205 AMERICAN BEAUTY cards.
It is interesting, that the T206 AB cards were cut narrower; but, not the T205 AB cards.

Anyone here want to venture a theory as to why T206 AB's were cut narrower ? And, it was not because the AB cigarette
packs were thinner. They were the standard American Tobacco Co. 10-cigarette pack.


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In 2007, I started running several T206 surveys of the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame), AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (no frame), an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards.
In June 2010, I tabulated the data and posted this thread. I'm confident this is a complete listing of all the T206 cards with these AMERICAN BEAUTY backs.
Link ...... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=124927&page=5



.. Wider than usual AB 350 (frame) of which 190 subjects have been confirmed ........ Typical AB 350 (no frame) card of which 37 subjects have been confirmed ..

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..................... AB 460 card of which 74 subjects have been confirmed ....................

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Hey guys, I currently have 56 cards of the 74 in the AB 460 sub-set. Any help in finding the following 18 cards is greatly appreciated............

BESCHER..........................DOYLE (portrait)..................SEYMOUR (portrait)
BRIDWELL........................JORDAN (bat)......................SMITH (Brooklyn)
CAMNITZ..........................MARQUARD......... ...............TINKER (bat on)
COBB (bat off)...................McGRAW (cap)....................TINKER (bat off)
CONROY (bat)...................McQUILLAN (bat).................WAGNER (bat on right)
CRAWFORD (bat)...............SCHLEI (portrait).................WILTSE (portrait)


So let's see lots your T205 or T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY cards and tell us of some of your experiences in acquiring these elusive gems.


Thanks to many Net54er's who participated in these AB surveys. And especially Barry Arnold, Bill Brown, Art Martineau, Scot Reader, Frank Wakefield, and Brian Weisner.


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Hi Ted,

American Beauty is my favorite back for the T205 and T206 sets. Unfortunately, I have just a few in my catcher collection.

I just have the one T205 American Beauty of Gabby Street which arrived today, and I have a Bresnahan (batting), Thomas, and Street (catching) in the T206 set. Bresnahan and Thomas have the framed 350 Subjects back, whereas, Gabby Street has a frameless 350 Subjects back.


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Ted,

Here are the scans of the 2 other T206s with the framed 350 Subjects American Beauty backs.


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Ted,

I only have two and the Mullin I got from you.

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My one and only which I recently picked up:
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Might have overspent a bit, but a Green AB back of a HOF'er I couldnt resist




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I believe you will see some T205's cut narrower as well, the Bresnahan above is notably narrower than the other T205 posted. I will post a few T205's tomorrow.

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Haven't shown this in a while. Not a card, but related.


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I will post of few
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Here is my lone example...

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I had over 120 black and greens from grade A-6. Roughly 65% black and I believe around 80-85 uniques total. Wish I could upload pics. On the road traveling right now though.
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Hey Andrew

Would love to see some T205 AB's.


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NIce cards, everyone! (and thanks for starting, Ted

Some Pirates:

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and 460



T205 Black



and Green

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Thanks Mike

And, I like your array of AB T205 & T206 Pirates.


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Noticeably thinner than all my other T205s.

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great thread.
i'm hoping that the 2 large trees are off your buildings by now and things are
back to normal a bit.

one of my favorite cards is the chase holding trophy ab 460 which you
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Some narrow, some normal.
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great thread.
i'm hoping that the 2 large trees are off your buildings by now and things are
back to normal a bit.

one of my favorite cards is the chase holding trophy ab 460 which you
held for awhile yourself!

all the best, ole friend
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I cut down the two trees that hit our house; but, the damage to the garage roof, the gutter channels, and our sub-deck will require professionals to repair the mess.

Here's my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 Chase.....not as nice as yours; nevertheless, I'm happy with it. My AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set ranges from Fair to Excellent.





Best regards to you and Margaret,

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Great cards everyone.

I Do have a question about the T205 AB's. I know they are either Black or Green back, but are they similar to the T206 Hindu Brown and Red? Whereas a card has either of the colors, but not both?

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I Do have a question about the T205 AB's. I know they are either Black or Green back, but are they similar to the T206 Hindu Brown and Red? Whereas a card has either of the colors, but not both?

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Wow, some very nice cards! Here's my meager contribution.
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Great stuff guys....let's continue this show.




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Hey guys......now here is a real AMERICAN BEAUTY

Stay tuned....and, I will tell you of an interesting story regarding Marilyn, back in the early 1980's when Joe DiMaggio
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Back to T205's and T206's......let's see some more of these pretty cards.


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A pretty rough T205 card, but the only AB back I own.
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So...here we are...some of my t205 America Beauty dups.

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