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Old 11-17-2016, 09:24 PM
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I think so...

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Old 11-17-2016, 09:30 PM
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Totally fake.

Modern made images pasted to original Cabinet mounts. These types of items have been coming out of the woodwork lately always with a seemingly clueless seller that has "no idea" what they have.

I love that they mounted the "Old Judge Cigarettes" portion of the OJ Cabinet as if that was part of the photo portion. Someone just spent $800+ on some really poorly thought out fakes.
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I have had these in hand and yes, they are fake.
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Old 11-17-2016, 09:36 PM
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Originals:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.18776/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.18581/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.19674/
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Old 11-18-2016, 06:32 AM
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Lots of bidding action at the end. And high feedback bidders too?
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:19 AM
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I mean, if you look close you can see the printing lines from a cheap printer. Not to mention the white edge where they cut it from and pasted it on an original cabinet mount....It's sad.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:59 AM
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this link is really helpful, even to my non-expert eyes.

Looking at the Elmer Chickering cabinet, you can see that the handwriting on the original (top photo) goes from the photo part onto the cabinet mount. Whereas on the ebay one (bottom one), the handwriting is all part of the photo, but the photo includes what had been part of the mount.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:04 AM
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Who has $800 to spend on old cabinet cards, who also falls for this sort of thing? You would think that anyone who meets the first condition wouldn't meet the second.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:35 AM
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He actually says the authenticity is unknown, too, in the original/reprint category. I can't imagine most of the bidders were paying attention to that.

I wish eBay would make sure that category is up at the top with the other bidding information and not buried further down by the description.
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Based on the history and what the seller normally sells (i.e non-baseball stuff), I think it is quite possible the seller did not know the items are repros.
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Yikes....Going to be like a bad dream for someone....

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Did anyone think there was an issue with the Tyng cabinet that sold on eBay recently? It did not appear to be a photo.
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Yikes....Going to be like a bad dream for someone....
Hopefully they'll figure it out when they get them. I noticed that the seller does offer 14-day money-back returns
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Ill be honest I was fooled , glad I didn't bid .
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I fell for a fake of that Allen cabinet a few years ago, but thanks to the boards here I got my money back, and the fake was destroyed. But there are many others being made, apparently....

my Allen fake
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I fell for a fake of that Allen cabinet a few years ago, but thanks to the boards here I got my money back, and the fake was destroyed. But there are many others being made, apparently....

my Allen fake
Yesterday I was going to sell something on the BST. After exhaustive research, I kept coming back to the board for the "lack of" authentication, and I found a fake sold approximately 10 yrs ago for $800+.....It had fooled one of the people least likely to ever get fooled. He used to run an auction house. The board can definitely help root out fakes with the 15+ yrs of archives.... I saved myself some embarrassment.
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