Memory Lane

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

And having said that, here's the irony about that....You can buy T206 SGC 84's for $350-375 range....PSA 7's are more like $525-675....I think that says it all....

I think we have turned this into a PSA vs. SGC thread and I didn't mean to. I do like to root for the underdog and would love there to be more than one reliable authority to compete for the grading business on vintage cards. I am rooting for an upstart if SGC can't recover.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Bram99

I think we have turned this into a PSA vs. SGC thread and I didn't mean to. I do like to root for the underdog and would love there to be more than one reliable authority to compete for the grading business on vintage cards. I am rooting for an upstart if SGC can't recover.

Tony, I hear you.....But, if SGC doesn't rebound, the odds of another grading company are pretty slim. I'm not sure that all of SGC's recent multiple holder and grading changes was the best thing....Joe Orlando I'm sure is loving all of this....

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Tony, I hear you.....But, if SGC doesn't rebound, the odds of another grading company are pretty slim. I'm not sure that all of SGC's recent multiple holder and grading changes was the best thing....Joe Orlando I'm sure is loving all of this....

From what I understand SGC is now also a very small operation basically running on a skeleton crew. BGS is giving PSA a good run for modern cards...especially with their "black label" concept which rolled out in 2015.

[T206Collector]

If PSA is the only company doing business, you can expect their quality to decline like any monopoly with significant barriers to entry.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

If PSA is the only company doing business, you can expect their quality to decline like any monopoly with significant barriers to entry.

And prices to increase!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

And prices to increase!

Yes, that too!

[hcv123]

Did anyone catch lot 226 - 1962 Venezuelan Leaders card with Mays that closed at 23K!!! I am first in line to exclaim what an anomaly the card is in an 8.5 grade - absolutely stunning - but 23K!!?? for a leaders card.


Not much to add to the SGC-PSA conversation. I think SGC are more consistent(both companies with much imperfection in the consistency department) in their grading. I have always liked their holders better. Both due to the registry and the resale market, when I buy graded cards I usually buy PSA. That said I also "buy the card, not the holder" and have bid on plenty of SGC graded cards (most of which have gone higher than I wanted to).

[CobbSpikedMe]

This might not help my popularity around here, but here goes...

It's no secret that I collect lower grade cards, so to me it doesn't make any difference what holder they are in. I'd much rather take an SGC card for less money than the same card in a PSA holder. You see, I'm just a collector, not an investor or registry guy. So the less I have to pay for my cards, the more cards I can collect. I'm not caught up in having the nicest condition examples out there. Not saying there is anything wrong with that either. I love seeing sweet high grade cards in the monthly pick up threads just like everyone else does. And I don't begrudge anyone who has the means to collect high grade cards. I feel like when they push the prices of cards up and up it still helps the values of my cards slightly. But again, I collect them, I don't sell them. Sure I sell sometimes when I need to fund a purchase, but I'm not a seller per se. So, I prefer to acquire my cards in the nicer looking holders (IMO SGC is much nicer looking than PSA) for less money so I end up with more cards.

Just sort of rambling here. Carry on.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

This might not help my popularity around here, but here goes...

It's no secret that I collect lower grade cards, so to me it doesn't make any difference what holder they are in. I'd much rather take an SGC card for less money than the same card in a PSA holder. You see, I'm just a collector, not an investor or registry guy. So the less I have to pay for my cards, the more cards I can collect. I'm not caught up in having the nicest condition examples out there. Not saying there is anything wrong with that either. I love seeing sweet high grade cards in the monthly pick up threads just like everyone else does. And I don't begrudge anyone who has the means to collect high grade cards. I feel like when they push the prices of cards up and up it still helps the values of my cards slightly. But again, I collect them, I don't sell them. Sure I sell sometimes when I need to fund a purchase, but I'm not a seller per se. So, I prefer to acquire my cards in the nicer looking holders (IMO SGC is much nicer looking than PSA) for less money so I end up with more cards.

Just sort of rambling here. Carry on.

you're not alone Andy...in the minority maybe...but not alone!

[Copa7]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

This might not help my popularity around here, but here goes...

It's no secret that I collect lower grade cards, so to me it doesn't make any difference what holder they are in. I'd much rather take an SGC card for less money than the same card in a PSA holder. You see, I'm just a collector, not an investor or registry guy. So the less I have to pay for my cards, the more cards I can collect. I'm not caught up in having the nicest condition examples out there. Not saying there is anything wrong with that either. I love seeing sweet high grade cards in the monthly pick up threads just like everyone else does. And I don't begrudge anyone who has the means to collect high grade cards. I feel like when they push the prices of cards up and up it still helps the values of my cards slightly. But again, I collect them, I don't sell them. Sure I sell sometimes when I need to fund a purchase, but I'm not a seller per se. So, I prefer to acquire my cards in the nicer looking holders (IMO SGC is much nicer looking than PSA) for less money so I end up with more cards.

Just sort of rambling here. Carry on.

I visited your site. Really nicely done. I think I might be able to help with several sets including 1954 World of Wheels!

I like the focus of your collection.