t206 Cobb Question

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Posted By: Danny Grimes

Dealer at a show today told me the new book, i was led to believe SCD has the Cobb Bat-Off shoulder more valuable than the Green Portrait now? Can someone confirm this and why?

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Posted By: mark

bought my first t206 cobb in 1971.
from 36 years of observance, i believe there are but THREE possibilities!
that dealer is either:
a) misinformed
b) full of doo-doo
c) both... but, not neither

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

A bat off could be worth more if its back is Drum, Uzit, Broadleaf, or Red Hindu... or if it is in great shape. (Ha, 5 two letter words in a row!) Or, if the green portrait is ragged. Generally, Cobbs with bat off are encountered much more frequently than green portrait Cobbs. Mark has told you correctly.

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Posted By: T206Collector

Why would you buy/rely on a written price guide when VintageCardPrices.com has real time prices?

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Posted By: JimB

The green portrait is now and always will be the most valuable of the four T206 Cobb poses for the simple reason that it is the toughest to find.
JimB

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I'm a bibliophile. I'd rather buy one guide a year and pay attention rather than subscribe to an online service. Online services can be manipulated, with 2 or 3 different identity sellers and a few shill buyers... I can look at a guide without getting online, or even near a computer. I have greater faith in a guide and my judgment than I have in an online service. I could go on... That is why for me.

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Posted By: Bob Lemke

The 2008 Standard Catalog does show the green background lower than both bat/on and bat/off in NM, though it retains its superiority in EX and VG

The values shown are:
NM EX VG
Green background 9,000. 2,600. 1,400.
Red background 4,500. 1,600. 900.
Bat Off Shoulder 9,600. 2,300. 1,000.
Bat On Shoulder 9,300. 1,900. 800.


You'd have to ask the new editor, but could it be related to relative numbers of NM or better graded cards in the population reports (I no longer have access to that data).

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Posted By: JimB

The last NM green Cobb sold for over 34k just a couple of months ago.
JimB

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Posted By: Danny Grimes

Bob, thats probably what he was telling me about. The 2008 Standard Catalog pricing.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Guys,


1. Green Cobb
2. Bat On
3. Bat Off
4. Red Port


While bat off is a much more popular pose, bat on is tougher to find.

Be well Brian

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

I can see a dispute over the bat on/off versions but both are easier than the green. Odd pricing structure in the SC to say the least.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Another factor which makes the GREEN Cobb tougher is the fact that the majority of them are PIEDMONT 150's;
and. most of these are invariably off-center to the top. Shown here to illustrate this are my two Green Cobb's.

The Green Cobb's with Sweet Cap back or Sovereign (really tough back to find) are usually centered.




T-Rex TED

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Posted By: mark

bob-
thank you for your post clarifyng this situation & uncovering the real culprit.

danny- i hereby tender an apology about that dealer to whom i referred earlier.

it is obviously scd that is misinformed and/or full of doo-doo...
some of those prices aren't even close to representing ACTUAL sales values!