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Old 11-03-2017, 07:30 PM
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Maybe these particular cards were configured on a sheet in such a way as to have accidentally received the autograph notation, with no intention of having any signed versions (Clemente & Williams as subjects all but confirm that thought). Seems like a printing error to me.
Too many things to be a printing error IMO. There is text on the card back about autographs. Not only is there the extra printing on the front there is also a lightened area on the cards for an autograph.
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Yea, I have no clue. Hopefully more surface from more new sellers and more info gets shed on them eventually one way or another.
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Just tossing out a guess, as there really is no other good explanation for it, especially for guys who could not have possibly signed cards. I don't know how card images are created for printing. Maybe there is a template that someone clicks an "autograph" box on and it adds the predetermined text to the card image?

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Too many things to be a printing error IMO. There is text on the card back about autographs. Not only is there the extra printing on the front there is also a lightened area on the cards for an autograph.
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I'm not sure of the specifics of the modern process, but the images are usually done on a computer now, and some presses can make the plate on the press, all electronically.

I'm thinking the cards are done in the software in layers representing the colors. If that's what's done, the extra text might be its own layer. It looks to me like the Clemente and Williams don't have a light area for an auto. So maybe someone forgot to turn the autograph text layer off and the system made a plate with the text on cards that shouldn't have it?

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I'm not sure of the specifics of the modern process, but the images are usually done on a computer now, and some presses can make the plate on the press, all electronically.

I'm thinking the cards are done in the software in layers representing the colors. If that's what's done, the extra text might be its own layer. It looks to me like the Clemente and Williams don't have a light area for an auto. So maybe someone forgot to turn the autograph text layer off and the system made a plate with the text on cards that shouldn't have it?

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Looked at the Ted Williams and it looks to have the light area to me,
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From opening decent amount of topps this year and last both base and chrome I do not like the looks of the cards. Backs of Auto's don't have the normal backs and a small section that says auto edition. They have a common back with other Auto's from same series. I have seen guys walk around shows with a stack of these fantasy ( Is that the word we use now..) cards and at $10 or $20 a pop can pocket some decent profit. Could they all be from a sheet that went down the wrong line Maybe...but I just don't like em.. JMHO
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:24 PM
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Looked at the Ted Williams and it looks to have the light area to me,
You're right, it does.

I wonder if the lightening is automatic in the software? Maybe when the autograph text layer is active?
I really should stop by the place I used to work and see if they'll give me a quick "tour" of how the new stuff works.
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