Was Steve Carlton a racist and anti semite?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Leon

+1

So it's sort of like jeopardy?
We can dodge that rule by making any opinion be in the form of a question?

Good to know.

[ALR-bishop]

Is Steve being sarcastic here ?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Is Steve being sarcastic here ?

Steve the Poster or Steve the Carlton?

[ALR-bishop]

Yes

[Leon]

Originally Posted by steve B

So it's sort of like jeopardy?
We can dodge that rule by making any opinion be in the form of a question?

Good to know.

Sure thing....dodge until I see it. The way I read it the OP asked a legitimate question and didn't give an opinion of a person or company.

[D. Bergin]

LOL, I guess this begs the question, can one be an Anti-Semite, without being a racist and visa versa?

I think I know the answer and nearly all the possible responses, but let the chicken and the egg scenarios begin.

I apologize ahead of time for stirring up sh*t in this thread.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

LOL, I guess this begs the question, can one be an Anti-Semite, without being a racist and visa versa?

I think I know the answer and nearly all the possible responses, but let the chicken and the egg scenarios begin.

I apologize ahead of time for stirring up sh*t in this thread.

I would say absolutely. Judaism is not a race. Additionally, what would prevent someone who is Jewish from being intolerant of someone who is Asian, Black, Latino etc.?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sure thing....dodge until I see it. The way I read it the OP asked a legitimate question and didn't give an opinion of a person or company.

Well, I usually don't do that, so no worries here.

To me the question came across as odd, since I wasn't aware of any controversy. I suppose someone running across that old article might have questions. It just seemed odd at first.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by mq711

In his playing days, Carlton was anti-press and not very fond of autograph collectors but has mellowed with age.

Well, if you read the "old" article he's doing it for income.

Originally Posted by steve B

Well, I usually don't do that, so no worries here.

To me the question came across as odd, since I wasn't aware of any controversy. I suppose someone running across that old article might have questions. It just seemed odd at first.

Struck me as odd too, if you take the article at face value. How much can anybody know about Carlton w/o reading about and trusting what the authors' write is not 'embellished'?

Also, although the OP's question was innocent he's relying on the opinion of others' who actually have the nerve to post a full name in their replies

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Paul S

Well, if you read the "old" article he's doing it for income.


Struck me as odd too, if you take the article at face value. How much can anybody know about Carlton w/o reading about and trusting what the authors' write is not 'embellished'?

Also, although the OP's question was innocent he's relying on the opinion of others' who actually have the nerve to post a full name in their replies

Yeah, like you?
.

[packs]

I have no opinion on Carlton but as a fellow writer I want to point out that Pat Jordan was/is a very prominent sports journalist and it would be highly unusual for him to make something up in one of his articles.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yeah, like you?
.

I was wondering who would the first. I'm glad it was you. All fixed now.

[Exhibitman]

Well we've always known Carlton was odd; seems he's gone round the bend to weird. Also sounds like he should take advantage of the laws in CO and smoke a bowl or two...

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sure thing....dodge until I see it. The way I read it the OP asked a legitimate question and didn't give an opinion of a person or company.

Asking a question like that is close enough to stating an opinion or making an accusation. I wouldn't want anyone starting a thread like that, that questions my integrity, especially if they were allowed to remain anonymous. And I'm pretty sure Mr. Carlton would feel the same way if he ever stumbled upon this site and thread.

[Leon]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am pretty sure you can't say how someone else will feel because you aren't them.
And, as always is done and evidenced by precedent, if this thread had your name in the title I would send you the name of the OP privately. That has been done in numerous other instances. IF Steve asks me for the OPs full name I will tell him. Same if it was about you, I would tell you. Everyone, imo, has a right to know who is saying stuff in their direction but mandating a full name is a bit more invasive and not required unless an opinion is given. A question probably won't require a full name.

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Asking a question like that is close enough to stating an opinion or making an accusation. I wouldn't want anyone starting a thread like that, that questions my integrity, especially if they were allowed to remain anonymous. And I'm pretty sure Mr. Carlton would feel the same way if he ever stumbled upon this site and thread.