Things we've learned lately

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Posted By: Anson

I've noticed that over the past few years, Pre-War collectors have made a lot of new discoveries concerning many of the issues we collect. It's pretty exciting, considering that most of these cards are almost 100 years (or more)old.

I thought it would be fun to list some of the more recently discovered things you've seen. In other words, what was previously accepted has since been changed or proven otherwise. Or, something that simply was an unknown. Sorry if that's a little hard to understand. Must be this head cold.

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Posted By: JimB

Leafs were all made in 1949, not 1948.
JimB

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Posted By: jay behrens

Recent discoveries I've brought to light are t207s with the Recruit ad back in brown ink, the e90-3 Hofman variation, and new additions to the e104-3 set Boss Schidt and Sherry Magee with Nadja backs.

Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: fkw

Off the top of my head, some random things Ive learned over the last few years.

In some T206 packs (Hindu for one) there were more than one card per pack of cigarettes.

The Pinkerton Photo Postcards are vintage and date from same time as the Pinkerton Cabinets. I have owned about 4 that were used as postcards and had postmarks to prove age.

E224 Texas Tommy's cards were made by the Cardinet Candy Co. of Oakland, and Texas Tommy was the name of a dance of the era.

Sanella Ruth cards are very common in Germany

There are 2 different 1933 Blue Bird Ruth cards, one (front view) there is about 3 dozen known, the second (side view) only a single example known.

M101-4 and M101-5 are from the same year.

Herpolsheimer made cards (or planned to) in 1921.

Some 1947-66 Exhibits are found with 1926-29 Postcard backs (just learned that one couple days ago).

There is a Ruth in the 1923-24 Exhibit Set, (only a single example seen by me).

Some cut W517 minis are actually cut from a 4-in-1 postcard.

1929 Leader Novelty Candy Co., 1933 Uncle Jacks Candy, 1925 Schapira Candy, 1927 Middy Bread, and a few others, sell for a lot more than the books indicate.

There are 3 different sets in W519

There are 3 sets of Standard Biscuit cards, 1916, 1917, 1921 (with 4 total variations).

1949 Cuban Ansco cards are not only found with Almendares players, there are many players from the Habana team as well.


1933 Blue Bird (side view), 1949 Ansco Habana

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Posted By: Anson

I know we learned that E102s actually were produced in 1909 and not 1908, displacing that it's the lone Cobb rookie. In addition, in pursuing E101s, I learned that they're at tough if not more difficult to find than E102s.

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Posted By: JimB

Hal has taught us all a lot about the Henry Recuuis Wagner card.
JimB

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Posted By: Scot Reader

In T206 ...

1. Only six subjects that appear in both the 350 and 460 series are possible with any of the American Beauty 350 with frame, Broad Leaf 350, Carolina Brights, Cycle 350, Sovereign 460 or Sweet Caporal 460/30 back types. The six are Chance (Yellow Portrait), Chase (Blue Portrait), Chase (Dark Cap), Cobb (Red Portrait), Evers (Yellow Background) and Matty (Dark Cap).

2. No subject is possible with both the American Beauty 350 with frame and American Beauty without frame back types. Subjects that appear only in the 350 series, with the exception of Nichols, are not possible with American Beauty 350 without frame. Subjects that appear in both the 350 and 460 series, with the exception of the six mentioned above in point "1", are not possible with American Beauty 350 with frame.

3. Bender (Trees), Dahlen (Brooklyn), Fiene (Portrait) and Fiene (Throwing) are 350-only subjects, meaning they are not possible with any 460 series back type, contrary to conventional wisdom.

4. Abbaticchio (Blue Sleeves), Kleinow (Boston), Latham, Meyers, Overall (Hand at Waist), Smith (Chicago & Boston), Schaefer (Washington), Tannehill (No "L") and Tinker (Bat On) are 460-only subjects, meaning they are not possible with any 350 series back type, contrary to conventional wisdom.

5. Ames (Hands at Chest), Doyle (Throwing), Ewing, Jones (St. Louis), Lindaman, Lundgren (Chicago) and Schulte (Front View) are doubtful with any 350 series back type, contrary to conventional wisdom.

6. Subjects that appear only in the 150 series are doubtful with the Old Mill back type, contrary to conventional wisdom.

7. Only a handful of subjects that appear in both the 150 and 350 series (probably between 30 and 40) are possible with the Sweet Caporal 150/649 back type.