Robert Plancich

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Posted By: leon

No disrespect meant here but maybe Bushing is not answering your emails the same way you seem to ignore ALL of the folks on this board that have asked about your credentials?? When flinging the mud you have (and very interesting mud I might add) you really need to answer the questions asked. If someone asks me about my credentials I tell them. I have a BA degree in General Studies, have a little bit of common sense, and have been addicted (sort of) to collecting vintage cards for about 8 years, which is fairly well known by everyone on this board. I have handled quite a few obscure issues and that is where I get most of my knowledge....and I read a little, but mostly look at pictures That's really about it. I strongly urge you to answer the "credentials" question. I am sure you are on the up and up but you need to answer....just my thought. Keep up the good work.....best regards

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Posted By: Josh A.

I agree with Leon. I am relatively new to this MB, but it seems everyone I've talked to or asked for advice is very kind, knowledgable and patient. However, this Robert Planich guy just keeps posting threads bashing the hobby, and ignores everyone else! Maybe that's why nobody gives you the time of day!

"I'm thinking about getting a plasma T.V., in case I need a transfusion."- Steven Wright

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Posted By: Bryan

Lets here it Robert.

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Posted By: andy becker

me too.

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Posted By: J Levine

In the absence of Mr. Plancich providing his credentials, I really do have to start wondering if he just has been burned on a piece of memorabilia. That being said, I understand that many of us dabble (some more than dabble) in sports memorabilia but this board is titled...VINTAGE BASEBALL CARDS...Is it just me or is anyone else a little tired of Mr. Plancich whining about these things...it is up to the consumer to educate themselves before they drop $5000 on a glove or a $1 on a ball...I know his intention is to educate but without credentials it is like learning brain surgery from watching T.V. Please, can't we get back to some interesting card discussions...

-Joshua

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Posted By: John

Good point Leon, Robert I’m very interested in what your are saying and if your organization C.A.R.D.S can really help our hobby. I’m sure I’m not the only one who would join your rally. But without more info backing up your claims and ideas it’s beginning to sound like you’re the Oliver Stone of the baseball memorabilia hobby. Please fill us in more on where you’re going with this stuff.

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Posted By: PASJD

I was initially impressed by some of the details Mr. Plancich provided, but the absence of any response to legitimate questions by members of this Board about his organization, credentials, motives, etc. is becoming quite conspicuous, particularly when we KNOW he is reading the board by the fact that he has posted recently.

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Posted By: ramram

Here are some internet articles that reference Mr. Plancich:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:mz9ype1FYZgJ:www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/258127p-221097c.html+%22Robert+Plancich%22&hl=en

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:vWFQr3gxHlwJ:www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/v-pfriendly/story/200143p-172802c.html+%22Robert+Plancich%22&hl=en

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:bw0PodYWaQsJ:www.siliconvalley.com/mld/cctimes/sports/baseball/mlb/san_francisco_giants/10068501.htm+%22Robert+Plancich%22&hl=en

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Posted By: warshawlaw

I like the quote from Rick Kohl extolling Bushing's virtues and claiming that it would be a very crooked hobby w/o him. LOL

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Posted By: Julie

dealer's action, saying he did not know right now, but would try to find out for me.

I didn't ask him for credentials. Only for expertise.

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Posted By: Scott

Ignore him and he will go away

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Posted By: ramram

So long as he comes through with some information to validate himself, he may be a good thing. He's gonna have to do something about his "bull in a china closet" mentality though if he's to gain some respect in the hobby.

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Posted By: Todd (nolemmings)

I don't think his remarks should be discredited just because he might not want to tell us much about himself. I simply take what he posts with a grain of salt--the size of which would go down dramatically if he would offer up some evidence of his credentials. If what he says is true, and some of it appears to be subject to other verification, how much does it matter whether he's a documented expert of some sort or the town drunk?

Don't get me wrong--to the extent he appears to want people to join his group, he can pretty much forget about the bunch on this board until he offers up some reason to believe his cause is worthwhile and that he is worthy of leading it. So I won't be hooking the horse to his wagon anytime soon.

Still and again, even if he as the source could be shown to be tainted, which certainly remains to be seen, I for one have no problem with him bringing the issues to this board for discussion. After all, it does appear that at least some newswriters have reported on a couple of these matters, and I used to feel comfortable saying that they wouldn't report it without some investigation (then Walter Cronkite retired). Let such threads stand or fall on their own, at least until such time as they become distractingly overblown and devoid of interest, which I suspect will be in the eyes of the beholder.

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Posted By: leon

I agree. I wasn't really going to post again about it but just because he won't give his credentials or background doesn't mean I will completely discount him. I think the jest of my initial post implied something to that effect too. later

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Posted By: JDWeller

So he has an agenda like others who post here. At least he is providing us with some interesting information.

JDW

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Posted By: MW

Agreed. Let's not shoot the messenger until what he says is proved to be false. Reading Robert's posts has provided some useful information on the authentication of various types of memorabilia.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Guys,

Mr. Plancich is not claiming to be an expert himself, so why do his credentials make a difference? He's presenting the FACTS, not an opinion. Even death row inmates can make good informants!

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Posted By: Josh A.

This is the point I think everyone is focusing on. How do we know he is presenting facts? He has been asked to back them up with evidence, but does not respond. I am not calling him a liar or anything, but I would like to know where he gets his information, that's all.

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Posted By: Anonymous

From what I understand, most of Plancich's glove claims stem from FACTS presented by Rawlings - i.e. the DiMaggio "rookie" glove that wasn't made until 1954, the Koufax no-hitter glove, the Seaver "1969 Mets" glove that wasn't made until 1978, and the 1971 Fergie Jenkins glove (from Fergie himself) that wasn't made until 1988. It is my understanding that date codes and labeling characteristics allowed Rawlings to definitively date these gloves. To me, those are iron clad facts for a number of HUGE errors.

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Posted By: Robert Plancich

Leon:

In response to your request for my "credentials" I decided to reply by addressing the Board instead of directly to you because I received several similar requests. I hope my post answers at least some of the issues raised and/or your questions/concerns about me and the CARDS organization.

Sincerely,
Robert Plancich, CARDS