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Old 12-21-2017, 03:32 PM
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Yeah $40,800.


I don't think the registry has anything to do with a card selling for more than the page. It is being treated like a card and I personally would much rather own the individual Clay than the page with the others on it. I think if you polled 100 collectors at least 90% would rather the single cut out card.
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Yeah $40,800.


I don't think the registry has anything to do with a card selling for more than the page. It is being treated like a card and I personally would much rather own the individual Clay than the page with the others on it. I think if you polled 100 collectors at least 90% would rather the single cut out card.
That's a pretty big disparity between those two auctions, wow. David I don't doubt you are right, but I don't understand the thinking, a piece of a cut up 4 on 1 Exhibit is pretty worthless even if it depicts Ruth, what's the difference? Maybe these panels were intended to be cut up? Even so, I prefer the intact item.
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How could one possibly cut one of those panels?

Peter and I share in our appreciation of the value of Wilma Rudolph's inclusion on the 4 in 1.
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I'm not sure what I'm more surprised about.

The fact that this Ali card sold in Heritage for $40,000

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That Adam wasn't aware of the sale.

YOU'RE SLIPPIN', MAN!

Cool card and interesting disparity between the two sales.
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Heritage doesn't even send me a catalog. I missed a ton of their stuff. Not sure why I made their shit list, but I guess I did. $40,800...wow. So totally not worth it.
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Peter I would rather a pack driven item whether it be a sticker or a card. I am not a cut card guy but it is a very early artifact from his days so it has to be worth something. If it was a dime a dozen the Pop would be higher. At this stage of the hobby you do not see many uncut sheets that could yield higher grades.


15k to 40k is a huge range. Hard to tell what this card is really worth at the moment.
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Price on the T220s is surprising.
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Heritage doesn't even send me a catalog. I missed a ton of their stuff. Not sure why I made their shit list, but I guess I did. $40,800...wow. So totally not worth it.
Ah, that explains it. Just bustin' chops and also recognizing your rep as a boxing card guru of sorts.
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Speaking of gurus are you guys familiar with Martin Bradford? I bought all of the Tyson's he had listed in 2010 from this site.
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I did and it is going to be making a trip to Newport Beach.

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Peter and I share in our appreciation of the value of Wilma Rudolph's inclusion on the 4 in 1.
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I did and it is going to be making a trip to Newport Beach.
Some people assume that you can just cut the card and get a high grade but it doesn't work that way. In fact, many times you will find that a panel has a crease or bend and no amount of cutting is going to be able to fix it. I made my hand cuts and just found out that I got a PSA 5 for my Hemmets Cassius Clay. I'll be happy with this one in my collection.
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Some people assume that you can just cut the card and get a high grade but it doesn't work that way. In fact, many times you will find that a panel has a crease or bend and no amount of cutting is going to be able to fix it. I made my hand cuts and just found out that I got a PSA 5 for my Hemmets Cassius Clay. I'll be happy with this one in my collection.
An abrasion on the back is also very common.
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The stock of the paper is between flexible and cardboard stock (semi-rigid)....so any bend on that card stock would probably drop the overall grade to a PSA 5 at best.

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