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Old 12-23-2017, 10:53 AM
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Default Card selling scenerio- Big lie or not

Example

Card for sale. Asking $1000, buyer offers $500.

Seller says he has $900 in the card so to feed his family he HAS to get $900 only because he paid $900 for it, perhaps on his credit card and needs to pay the credit card back and the $900 is needed avoid foreclosure as well.

Buyer would never pay $900, but based on these representations, he relies on the Seller and pays $900.

One week later, seller says on public forum that he only paid $400 for the card and shouts his happiness that he made $500 on the card (lets assume what he says is true on this)

Do we feel the buyer should be able to the deal canceled and get his money back because the seller admittedly lied about the purchase price and reason for selling and buyer otherwise would not have paid?

Its not an issue of an altered card, or fraud card etc.


What you guys think....i not looking for legal opinions, just looking what you guys think

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Old 12-23-2017, 11:25 AM
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I would lean towards no, it's on the buyer if he overpaid based on sympathy or other considerations irrelevant to the commercial value of the card, but at the same time the lying seller should be ostracized.
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Old 12-23-2017, 12:02 PM
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Nobody pays an extra $400 on a $500 card because of some sob story. They paid $900 for that card, because they thought it was a $900 card.



Sounds like a story where a seller simply said they needed $900 out of a card (what they paid for it is irrelevant), all the reasons given after that were embellished (and also irrelevant), and now somebody is looking to now get their money back out of this "card", and is looking at the original seller as the easy way out.

To some people I imagine the phrase "give me my money back or I'll out you on Net54" comes easier to some then it does to others.

Sometimes you need to own up to your mistakes.

We've all bought things we're remorseful about throughout the years.
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Old 12-23-2017, 12:51 PM
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Example

Card for sale. Asking $1000, buyer offers $500.

Seller says he has $900 in the card so to feed his family he HAS to get $900 only because he paid $900 for it, perhaps on his credit card and needs to pay the credit card back and the $900 is needed avoid foreclosure as well.

Buyer would never pay $900, but based on these representations, he relies on the Seller and pays $900.

One week later, seller says on public forum that he only paid $400 for the card and shouts his happiness that he made $500 on the card (lets assume what he says is true on this)

Do we feel the buyer should be able to the deal canceled and get his money back because the seller admittedly lied about the purchase price and reason for selling and buyer otherwise would not have paid?

Its not an issue of an altered card, or fraud card etc.


What you guys think....i not looking for legal opinions, just looking what you guys think
Nice card. GLWS!
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Old 12-23-2017, 01:11 PM
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nice card. Glws!

lol! :d

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Old 12-23-2017, 01:13 PM
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Nice card. GLWS!
Oh i am sooo offended you wrote that. I think i got to go out of my way now to criticize how terrible it is to say nice card. Man thats so offensive and mean to say that. Next you will see GLWS and not put in 'nice card' that would be much worse!
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Old 12-23-2017, 01:15 PM
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Nobody pays an extra $400 on a $500 card because of some sob story. They paid $900 for that card, because they thought it was a $900 card.



Sounds like a story where a seller simply said they needed $900 out of a card (what they paid for it is irrelevant), all the reasons given after that were embellished (and also irrelevant), and now somebody is looking to now get their money back out of this "card", and is looking at the original seller as the easy way out.

To some people I imagine the phrase "give me my money back or I'll out you on Net54" comes easier to some then it does to others.

Sometimes you need to own up to your mistakes.

We've all bought things we're remorseful about throughout the years.
Ok so nobody pays $400 more, but the amount wasnt' the issue to me. What if its 100 dollars more. The rest of what you put doesnt really seem to apply to the amount extra being paid not being believable. It my fact pattern it was paid though whether believable or not in the real world.
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..................... It my fact pattern it was paid though whether believable or not in the real world.
I agree with whatever you are saying here. I just don't understand it.
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Old 12-23-2017, 04:24 PM
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Pretty sneaky on the sellers part.

But, bust a deal face the wheel.........

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This is not new. You'll see this stunt being pulled on the "shiny sites".

I need money/gonna have operation:

- these semi-stars and commons are up for sale.
- these once-were-a-superstar-but-now-injured-and-hasn't-played-for-a-year cards are up for sale.

And my favorite:

- I will trade 1000 one-dollar cards for one $1000 card.
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