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Old 08-28-2008, 03:54 PM
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Posted By: Matt

http://cgi.ebay.com/1886-Old-Judge-Ewing-Tobacco-Baseball-Card-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ320292513041

"AND NO LOCAL PICKUP DUE TO THE VALUE OF THE CARD."


In an unrelated issue - doesn't ebay have a list of cards that are not allowed to be sold raw?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-GOUDEY-53-BABE-RUTH-ROOKIE-CREASES-YET-NICE-NR_W0QQitemZ310076816611
Perhaps the rules are different when you are a powerseller who chooses to pay the premium listing fees that ebay would lose should they decide to cancel your listings.

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:11 PM
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What a scam. Just shameful!

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:29 PM
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You don't believe they have the card?
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:37 PM
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Isn't that Leon's old card?

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:40 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

It is the same card that Leon had. I didn't realize Leon had sold it, but I checked his website and it's the same card he has listed in his personal collection.

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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Dan,
Can i have a link to his website. Thanks

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I emailed the seller to tell him that this card belongs to a friend of mine and he replied back immediately with the following:

"these are stock pictures thats why i have the card im in the process of moving thats why i cant upload acutal pics and the reason of sale thanks alot for the accusations"

Yeah...right..

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:48 PM
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Here you go Brock: http://www.luckeycards.com/personal.html

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:53 PM
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He spells like my cat.

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:56 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I replied back with "Yeah right" and he replied back with this gem:

"why would someone sell a card like this im in a eviction situation if your willing to help me ill unlist my card but i need money oh and why does it trouble you you are not obligated to bid are you?"

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:58 PM
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sell him an apostrophe, Dan.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:00 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I've asked him to prove to me that he owns an SGC 30 Ewing by giving me the serial number on the slab...we'll see how fast he replies to that request.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:10 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Okay, she responded...her name is Lori Maxwell.

"ok be on tomorrow afternoon the card is in storage like i said im going through eviction so when i drop off the next load ill write down the number (but from what i recall these cards dont have numbers)"

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:12 PM
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Very rare card. Financial distress. Must sell. She's in NYC. Send in The Bruces.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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Posted By: leon

I did sell that card, which I believe originated from the Corson collection, on one of the biggest BST auction sales I have seen. It went to another board member who is a little more private and I won't divluge anymore than that. It is a great card but that ebay person is far from having it....regards

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:19 PM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

No doubt its a great card but if I were going to use a "STOCK" photo, I certainly would NOT have picked that one.. but I suppose they needed one with creases...   I guess I am not a good scam artist because I would grabbed a PSA 8 stock photo and really went for the bank roll...   what do I know.


 

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:23 PM
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Marty - if you went for the 8 it would be too good to be true and no one would believe you actually had the card; the 2 is much more convincing.

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She owns a $50,000 baseball card but she is being evicted. Why not sell the card before the eviction goes into effect? What an idiot.

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I'm taking notes.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:31 PM
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Did somebody really bid on it?

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:32 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I have been going back and forth with this person who claims to be "lori Maxwell" in email for a bit and oddly enough I got a Yahoo IM request from someone named "Stephen ***"...I complied with the request, but that person denied me immediately. I googled his name and it comes up with a postcard dealer in New Jersey. Coincidence? Maybe, but I've been an Yahoo IM for years and have never gotten a request from someone I don't know.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:35 PM
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Posted By: Vanessa Phipps

I just sent this person this mesg.:

Wow! Not only are you a scam artist about to go to jail if you recieve money for this card, but you are an idiot!! You spell like my 1 year old daughter. Anyone who would really own this card would be able to spell. You should do a google search for Ebay baseball card fraud and check out the prison sentences being handed down to scam artists like yourself. Good luck!

As some of you might remember I was ripped off by a Ebay scammer on a 52 Mantle card. I would love to get one of these people put into jail!!!!

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:36 PM
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Posted By: leon

Get your looks while you can....I went ahead and reported it. Some time ago ebay asked me to join a special group for reporting fraud in sports cards and memorabilia, as they know a little about me (their loss ). I don't really report much but when I do they usually take care of it. Idiot seller should go to jail imo......

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:55 PM
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Posted By: Michael Steele

Darn! I was thinking of placing a bid because you know, it is free shipping and they have 1 total feedback and they have changed their ebay id in the last 30 days. Perfect when I am comptemplating a 20k plus purchase!

Egads....These just keep getting dumb and dumber all the time.

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Posted By: Vanessa Phipps

They responded very fast with this msg.: "yea check my feedback a couple days after the card is bought"

LOL!!!

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:02 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Michael, I hadn't even noticed that they changed their ebay handle....His old handle had the name "Steve" in it. Interesting isn't it? Just another coincidence?

A further Google search of Stephen *** pulled up his high school picture...he graduated in 1959 which would make him 66 or 67 years old. Too old for a scam like this?

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After what card is bought? He/she doesn't even own it. If the supposed winning bidder gets scammed for 50K he probably won't leave really good feedback.

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Don't Ebay handles get hijacked sometimes?

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:09 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

They do get hijacked, but that would have nothing to do with someone named "Steve" trying to IM me on Yahoo while I'm having a back and forth email conversation with the seller who also uses Yahoo mail.

edited to add: I think this person accidentally IM'ed me when they were trying to send an email instead.

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Posted By: leon

I was 100% sure but for what it's worth I just had a good chat with the owner. I told him about it being for sale on ebay.....he laughed....of course he still has it....it's a great card....

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:25 PM
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I am not a big ebay policy fan nowadays but they did good on this one. They also sent me a message about not answering that seller's emails or paying for anything. "Attaboy" Ebay........

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Leon- now look what you did...the poor girl is going to get evicted. And you just put her out on the street!

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I actually now think that it was a coincidence that this guy tried to IM me...I've been in contact with him and I'm fairly certain he is not the perpetrator of the fraudulent ebay auction.

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Posted By: Dan Lundrigan

This might work out well for her if she is being evicted and forced to live on the streets.She can have a place to live in PRISON!

I always try to find the silver lining in every situation!

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Old 08-28-2008, 07:24 PM
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Posted By: Robert Klevens

This listing (320292513041) has been removed or is no longer available.

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WELCOME TO THUNDERDOME!!!
Two Scammers Enter, Only One Comes Out!!!

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Old 08-29-2008, 12:53 AM
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Posted By: Anthony S.

The majority here know these two are reprints, but on the off chance you're new to collecting the T206 set, avoid these Cobbs (see links) like the plague. The "AUTHTCT?" flips are an interesting touch, though I'm not sure where they came up with the last "t" in authentic.

http://tinyurl.com/697hw7

http://tinyurl.com/5soj2x

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Old 08-29-2008, 07:22 AM
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Anthony,


"?AUTHTCT" is PSA shorthand for "Questionable Authenticity." Thus, the third "t".

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Posted By: jay wolt

Someone tries to defraud the public selling a high $ card
they do not own and all eBay does is remove the auction.
Would be great if charges were pressed like in the real
world if you do a crime of this magnitude.

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