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Career 49.6 War, 7 x all star with a nearly identical number of hits as Jackie Robinson doesn’t really support your last statement. He wasn’t a first ballot HOFer for sure but he isn’t in the Hof only because he was the first AL African American.
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I don't think he's a HOFer just based on pure numbers.
Hall of Fame Statistics Black Ink Batting - 18 (133), Average HOFer ≈ 27 Gray Ink Batting - 124 (153), Average HOFer ≈ 144 Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 72 (275), Likely HOFer ≈ 100 Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 30 (346), Average HOFer ≈ 50
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Comparing Larry Doby’s Major League statistics to Bernie Williams’ career statistics is not a valid comparison. I never said Doby was a 1st ballot HoFer, he had a solid career but rightfully was enshrined as a player, I felt like he was being dismissed as having been enshrined only because he was the 1st AA player in the American League, that is not true.
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I still don't think he's any better than outfielders such as Minoso and Colavito and Oliva etc. who history has adjudged to be one step below Hall level. That does not detract from him in any way, but I do think it's the case that his pioneering role had a lot to do with his selection.
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Why isn't Bernie Williams a valid comparison? They have the same exact WAR at the same position, which is what you used to assert Doby was a HOFer. Doby was 7x AS while Williams was 5. Williams has more hits than Doby as well to go along with a batting title and 4 championships. So if those stats made Doby a HOFer why is it not valid to compare him to Bernie?
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Look at this way: Doby and Bernie Williams have almost identical careers and even the same WAR at the same position. Bernie Williams will not get into the HOF. Last edited by packs; 05-07-2018 at 11:40 AM. |
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