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Old 02-02-2017, 03:19 PM
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I used to be a hoarder and have recently been selling off my dupes and are down to under 10 to sell. I have never sent anything in before but decided to send in these 3 to PSA to help with the sale. I am well known by Jim Stinson, Bill Corcoran and many others who have seen my collection
1. Callahan Ty Cobb- bought from Ron Gordon who before he was retired was one of the premier sellers like Jim Stinson, Bill Corcoran, Richard Simon etc. Can view the item at
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=..._dmd=1&_ipg=50

2. callahan Cy Young fom EAC with an LOA from JSA. View at
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-Callaha...0AAOSwGtRX0dGE

3. 1940 Playball Bill McKechnie can view at http://www.albersheims.com/LotDetail...ventoryid=5894
This came with a LOA from Richie Albersheim
PSA turned them all down, even the one with a full LOA from one of their new authenicators. I talked to a cold woman about the fact that one of their own authenticators had OKed the McKechnie before but she wasn't helpful.
Then there was the 1933 Goudey maranville I had a friend submit to Spence who rejected it. 2 months later I submitted it to an auction house and Spence (Jimmy both times) looked at it and passed it for the auction house. I think it is real as did people I trust.
These folks (PSA) have really pissed me off but if I ebay these 3 I'll never sell them for what they are worth without a cert. Most people want these certs regardless of how poor these guys are at authenticating. I am somewhat venting, somewhat asking for advice as sometimes this mess makes me want to liquidate and buy a farm in Hawaii.
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:09 PM
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I feel your pain and now welcome to the world of resell and auctioning that PSA and JSA rule with their swift swords of infallibility and inconsistency , even though both are jokes especially since the BIG 3 joining PSA has not changed their process at all or for the better , as I have posted several times.
I have a feeling that you won't be the first and that many collectors will feel your pain when they begin to sell or auction their collections.
Good Luck !
My advice is to start an early Happy Hour and try to forget this episode ....

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Old 02-02-2017, 05:10 PM
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Sorry Mike, I had that Cobb on my radar for a while! I just had psa turn down a Berra signed through his foundation, 100% real, and a clint courtney...I picked up from one of the new authenticators. It's very frustrating, and no reason is ever given. If they questioned the pen pressure, having been slowly drawn, or height/spacing of chracters...they should say so, and people can make their own determination.


As far as the JSA auction letters, I'd be surprised if a rep even looked at the lots. I believe the psa is now a guarantee, but JSA claims its a cursory review. It's BS and there are plenty of guys here on the board who actually care, and could make a living authenticating. The issue is, people out there are stuck on the big 2...maybe 3, and great cards are passed over because of it
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:57 PM
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so strange how I have a full LOA from Rich Albersheim on the McKechnie as I bought it in Rich's auction. And now that Rich is a PSA employee they still turn that one down
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:28 AM
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That's just plain idiotic.
Rich A. was one of the best dealers out there. I was shocked that he gave it up for PSA, and for PSA to now disregard his opinion shows why these TPA's NEED to be licensed AND regulated.
How can you brag about adding 3 of the best in the industry to your team and then question one of their earlier opinions
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:41 AM
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PSA told me their policy to to view autographs without knowing provenance or looking at other COA's so as not to be influenced. There are pros and cons to that approach.
I have been in tough with Rich Albersheim and he is gong to help me remedy this. He is a great guy
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:14 PM
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TPA's NEED to be licensed AND regulated.
The government gets everything right, so let's bring them into it.

Please provide details what government agency should be in charge of screening, testing, regulating and oversight of autograph authenticators.

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