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Old 11-18-2011, 07:47 PM
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Hi All:

I am somewhat of a newbie in the Net54 fraternity. I no longer collect the really old stuff that most of you do, but have been in the hobby since the mid 1960's.

With that said, I want to start off with a disclaimer. I understand and agree that all collectors can do with their cards/memorabilia etc. what they want to do with it. It is their choice entirely to trade or not to trade anything in their collection. From what I have read in many posts since I have been here it seems most collectors want to help others out whenever they can. A real collegial attitude has been noticed in many posts.

With that out of the way, I wanted your take on a recent encounter I had with a prominent member (at least in the number of posts) of the board.

I am collecting a set that I wrote this fellow about and asked what cards he had in the set. He replied that he had one card, a common player. I replied with a list of cards from the same set that included 13 players two of which are HOFer's.

I asked if he would trade his lone card for any of the ones on the list I sent him. Meaning a one for one trade. Thinking he would be pleased to be able to pick out a HOFer in trade for a common.

In the reply I received, he said he had not thought about trading it, but that he would do any of the following if the cards conditions are comparable:

Both HOFer's or one HOFer plus two commons for his one common.

I replied:

"Since mine are HOFer's and your player is not I feel a one for one deal would be fairer, with you still coming out way ahead ending up with a HOFer.

SCD Standard Catalog has the HOFers at $90 each and your common at $50 almost double in value."

I received no reply to my last email.

FYI, All three cards are comparable in condition and variations so we are talking apples for apples.

So, my question after all this is, if someone is working on a set that you have only one card from, that is a common, would you help out the other guy and trade the card? Forget the HOFer vs common, just the basic idea.

Was I expecting too much? I have always tried to help other collectors in sinmilar situations where I could and this seemed like a slam dunk for a quick one for one trade.

I'd like others take on this for future reference.

Thanks,

Fred
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:53 PM
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No, you were not expecting too much.

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Old 11-18-2011, 08:02 PM
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No you weren't expecting too much.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:10 PM
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Hi Fred,

Not sure what set it is, but maybe the other collector thinks that the card he has is a very tough card in the set? I have had similar situations where I have offered a HOFer plus the same pose from a different set and was rebuffed. I never was able to make the deal and still don't know why. Good luck.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:15 PM
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It sounds like a very fair offer. And I have found sometimes without face to face communication it is easy to misunderstand/misinterpret the nuances of conversations.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:20 PM
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I know there are some common cards that are harder to find, despite the value assigned by a price guide. There is a good chance if it is a tougher card for you to find, the other collector might have had a tough time finding the card also.

Also, even though cards might appear to be of similar grade, different collectors weigh certain conditional defects different (centering, crease location, back damage, etc.). Most collectors would probably let you know why they want a premium for a certain card, but not all.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:33 PM
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It sounds like someone I would not trade with. I have found all of the folks I have traded with on BST seem to have the same philosophy I do -- you try to make the trade fair by trading even value for even value.

The only time I have regretted a trade/sale on this Board was when someone on the Board was begging for certain cards to complete a set. I had one of the needed cards and I didn't really want to sell it but I did sell it to him to help the guy finish the set. Less than a month later, the guy sold the set that he professed to love so much in an auction. I felt a little cheated although I totally understand that when I sell or trade a card, it's not mine anymore and the person can do what they want with it. Lesson learned.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:07 PM
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I know there are some common cards that are harder to find, despite the value assigned by a price guide. There is a good chance if it is a tougher card for you to find, the other collector might have had a tough time finding the card also.

Also, even though cards might appear to be of similar grade, different collectors weigh certain conditional defects different (centering, crease location, back damage, etc.). Most collectors would probably let you know why they want a premium for a certain card, but not all.
Hi Mike:

I agree with your points above, but in this case neither is true. I am still quite far away from completing my set and the card i wanted in trade is a true common. Since the other collector only has ONE card in the set it is not that he had a hard time finding THAT one card himself.

As for condition, although I saw his card and he never saw mine. The trade talks did not get that far. But, he still asked for the two HOFer's or one HOF and two commons for his one common.

Fred
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One time I had a card that a board member wanted but he only had some cards that were borderline as to if I wanted them. Ended up still trading the cards and my collection grew into my 1921/22 world series collection. Very glad I traded in the long haul. I always try to be fair in trades or sales.

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Old 11-18-2011, 11:11 PM
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The good thing is you just say no. Some people are programmed to analyze a situation and then decide whether to help or to try and take advantage of supply and demand. I have been in your situation before and just move on and remember !!
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