Dodgers Auto'd Team Ball

[sb1]

Seeking board opinions on this Dodgers Team baseball for our upcoming auction. Without going into what few details I know of it's history I would like to get some opinions on the sigs. Regrettably the pics are not the best but perhaps will give you enough to go on.

Names on the ball, Walt Alston, Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella, Carl Erskine, Billy Cox, Duke Snider, Pee Wee Reese, Carl Furillo, Rube Walker, ______??, Don Hoak, Russ Meyer, Preacher Roe, Don Newcombe, Clem Labine, Billy Loes, Bill Wade, Bob Milliken, Gil Hodges, Jim Gilliam, Johnny Podres, Dick Williams and Jim Hughes

Scott

[thecatspajamas]

Does your camera have a "macro" setting for close-up shots? Looks like it's focusing on whatever that is the ball is resting on rather than the signed ball itself.

[sb1]

Lance,

I retook the images, it's the wife's camera and I had to do a bit of playing with it to get better shots, hope these help.

Scott

[7nohitter]

the blue ink all looks to be the same hand...
no?

[Mr. Zipper]

I don't know the sigs well enough to comment, except that the Alston and one of the panels seems much darker and slow. Possibly traced over?

[perezfan]

Brooklyn Clubhouse Attendant Sigs... the Robinson/Campanella/Erskine panel is the dead giveaway.

[Runscott]

Of the sigs on this ball, I only have been following Jackie Robinson, as I'm looking for a good handwritten letter.

It's real bad.

[MooseDog]

I vote thumbs down too...the sigs all have the same weight and many look slowly drawn. At first I thought they were printed, given that they all seem to have the same uniformity.

[keithsky]

I was always told most likely with Robinson Campanella and Erskine on the same panel in that order, clubhouse

[GrayGhost]

Before I read the replies, it didn't look right. most in same hand, and the Jackie is def a clubhouse. Put it w other replies. I don't think its a good one, sadly.

[sb1]

My suspicion's were echoed and I know little about autograph's, but right away most of the panels appeared to be in the same hand, and the darker two slightly different but also penned by one person.

[sb1]

So now that my suspicion's were confirmed, does the ball have any value?

Or is it best just destroyed so not to perpetrate any fraud down the road. The consignor of this is retiring and not interested in keeping the ball, as he is selling the rest of his card collection and this just happened to be in it.. He believes he bought it in an auction in the 90's.

[RCMcKenzie]

I believe this was an auction for 3 clubhouse balls that sold for over 1400.

www.antiquehelper.com/item/302089


My thought is that the ball is not worthless (maybe $50) if it is a period baseball signed by a clubhouse attendant. It's not really the type of item I'd like to collect though.

[Runscott]

It's not any of the three balls in the auction you linked to - you can compare the 'Walt Alston' on all three and it doesn't match up.

But the link you posted is good information to have - 3 similar clubhouse balls for $1,400 in 2005 means that this one should have value to somebody.

Scott - I would auction it as a 'clubhouse' ball. That shouldn't be considered as 'perpetrating fraud' in my opinion, if it was created as such back in the correct period. If it is a modern forgery, then that is a different issue and I would toss it to Pickles.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by keithsky

I was always told most likely with Robinson Campanella and Erskine on the same panel in that order, clubhouse

Absolutely correct. I have never seen that panel on a legitimately signed ball.
This ball is clubhouse attendant signed.

[earlywynnfan]

My 1954 Clubhouse team Dodgers ball wasn't nearly as nice as yours, and it just sold on ebay for $100.
Ken

[t206hound]

This ball is from my Uncle Pete Castiglione's collection. He played for the Pirates (47-53) and Cardinals (53-54). He wrote "1951 Dodgers" on the ball... thoughts? I plan to consign to an AH for my aunt.

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