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Old 09-28-2017, 05:59 PM
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On Goldin/Scoreboard COA's what do we look for other than obviously copies that are off center, blotchy etc?

Is it the way the verbiage is printed? Someone said the DiMaggio is good on this post but the Mantle based on the cert may not be. Looks like COA's verbiage was organized differently?

Street address on one and not the other? Spacing of paragraph?

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For starters, you should never trust a COA (although a fake COA is a quick way to discard an item immediately). I've seen hundreds of real Scoreboard COAs attached to phony items on eBay.

A real Scoreboard certificate will look like those in the estate sale (minus the one attached to the Mantle). Thicker paper (with a watermark I believe), nice sharp edges, not obviously photocopied, no blotchy signature (taken from an image from on the Internet), the item description not photoshoped in a different font, etc.

If the COA is fake the item is certainly fake. Don't waste your time looking at it anymore. If the COA is real then you can start to compare the autograph to exemplars, etc.

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Old 09-28-2017, 09:14 PM
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Thanks for your opinion Brendan. I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. These items are being offered at an estate sale. If you happen to be in the area maybe worth dropping by. Here's the info:

Sale Location:5 Arrowhead Ln
Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274

Sale Dates and Times:
Thursday Sep 28, 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Friday Sep 29, 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Saturday Sep 30, 8:00 am to 12:00 pm

They have multiple items "authenticated" by Ken Golden at Scoreboard. Are these all bad? Here's the web address if you want to look at the pictures.

https://www.estatesale.com/sales/vie...=59cd1f41af997

I'll post a few for those that can't get to the link or if it disappears. I notice the Ruth ball seems to be gone from the listing. Maybe if some of it is good, someone can go cherry pick the good stuff.
The Mantle is a forgery.

As for the DiMaggio, it could be authentic, but I need to see the full sig.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:26 AM
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For starters, you should never trust a COA (although a fake COA is a quick way to discard an item immediately). I've seen hundreds of real Scoreboard COAs attached to phony items on eBay.

A real Scoreboard certificate will look like those in the estate sale (minus the one attached to the Mantle). Thicker paper (with a watermark I believe), nice sharp edges, not obviously photocopied, no blotchy signature (taken from an image from on the Internet), the item description not photoshoped in a different font, etc.

If the COA is fake the item is certainly fake. Don't waste your time looking at it anymore. If the COA is real then you can start to compare the autograph to exemplars, etc.
I was once offered a Babe Ruth signed ball. Came with a Scoreboard COA with Ruth's name on it .
Sometimes you wonder how stupid these people really are.
Though after a lengthy time running classified ads all over the country I realize how stupid many people really are.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:46 AM
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I was once offered a Babe Ruth signed ball. Came with a Scoreboard COA with Ruth's name on it .
Sometimes you wonder how stupid these people really are.
Though after a lengthy time running classified ads all over the country I realize how stupid many people really are.
Spot on Richard. If we got rid of all the stupid people, the world would be a very small place...and nobody left to play professional sports (yeah, I'm talking to you NFL). LOL
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:20 PM
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No one has mentioned the 500HR ball that was also in the sale, so I thought I'd ask. What do you guys think?
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:26 PM
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No one has mentioned the 500HR ball that was also in the sale, so I thought I'd ask. What do you guys think?
Richard Dawson always had the answer.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:40 PM
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Richard Dawson always had the answer.
I like your Richard Dawson! Someone needs to go to this sale and let us know how much they were selling these for, fake and real. Like I said before, maybe someone can cherry pick the real stuff and educate people like me that would have been ripped off if I would have tried to buy these. If this is really someone's estate, they got ripped off over and over again.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:05 PM
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Richard Dawson always had the answer.
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Yikes!!!
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:53 PM
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Wow the Williams especially on that 500HR ball is really horrid.
Looks like it was written by a forgery school drop out.
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After all this time. This is a Marino. Loop through the s on willams. Loop on Muarry Killabrew Sloppy. Mantle the e goes straight across no loop.
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