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Old 07-09-2008, 12:39 PM
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Posted By: Matt

A comment by Alan in another thread, got me thinking of suggestions we may have for the grading companies on what they can do to improve their services (I'm limiting my comments to improvements no grading company that I am aware of currently employ):

1) Keeping scans of every card they grade. The benefits are several-fold, including, it would make adding a card to your registry much simpler, it would provide a database of exemplars for rare cards, and the scans could be used to ID if the same card has been submitted previously (if for nothing other then adjusting the pop count). Data storage is so cheap now, that it would not be cost prohibitive to do this.

2) Make the plastic used in slabs UV protected to prevent sun damage.



any other suggestions?

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:50 PM
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Posted By: Joe D.

I like the UV idea.

here are some of my quick suggestions -

For SGC:
1) Thinner slabs (like PSA)
2) Better stack-ability of slabs (like PSA)


For PSA:
1) No more cards swimming in the slabs, please.


For Beckett:
1) Easier crackability.
2) No baggie please


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Old 07-09-2008, 12:51 PM
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Posted By: Jon Canfield

Communication between the "big" grading companies so when a cross-over is received, the grading company alerts the former that the cert is being removed from the population.

Along similar lines - maybe the grading companies (or a private individual) can start a universal registry.

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:06 PM
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Posted By: Matt

Joe - good stuff; as far as SGC changing the form of their slabs I would think that any major grading company would be reluctant to changing the external dimensions of their slab since it would make stacking with the current form factor impossible. They have chosen the dimensions of their slabs and are basically "stuck" at this point.

Jon - Sounds like a business idea - a Unified Set Registry (c). Think of the testosterone if SGC and PSA slab owners would not only be competeing against their own brand of choice but against all major grading agencies!
SGC supposedly sends flips from crossovers back to their makers, but when I asked Michael at SGC if, in his experience, those companies actually remove the cards from their pop reports, he didn't want to answer in the affirmative.

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:08 PM
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...back my first two pre-war cards back from Beckett/JSA. The holders look awesome except -- and this is huge -- those damn baggies.

The baggies look horrendous, they detract from card visibility and I am afraid of what the scans will look like.

Seriously, I understand the baggy theory of protection. But grading should not only preserve but also showcase the card.

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:11 PM
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Posted By: Rob

good suggestions above. the only one i'd disagree with is for beckett - easier crackability. I think its good that their slabs are hard to crack, as it means less chance of foul play. Both sgc and psa have had instances of either cards getting swapped, or the labels. I believe Kevin Saucier said he wasn't able to take apart a BVG slab and put it back w/o significant signs of tampering ... correct me if i'm wrong (which is often, hee hee). I think thats a good thing.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Won't happen, but make it transparent who submitted cards so a potential buyer can know from whence they came.

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Posted By: Eric Brehm

For PSA: stop changing the rules in the middle of the game. Get it right the first time.

(1) Their decision to start classifying T206's by back type has thrown confusion into the population reports, which now consist mostly of cards with "Unknown" back. So a pose with a common back is often touted as "1 of 3" and so on. Not the end of the world, but a bit annoying. Actually, this has not affected me much personally since I don't really care what tobacco company advertised on the back of a card, and I collect them in the middle grades where most of the cards are relatively plentiful; thus I tend to ignore the T206 pop figures for the most part.

(2) The use of half-grades might be good in terms of grading and valuation accuracy in the long term, but their decision to introduce them at this late date has created the need for collectors to pay to have the cards graded more than once. Once should have been enough.

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:40 PM
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Posted By: Anthony S.

I think SGC rocks, with one huge caveat: The population reports. I only use them as a resource when I'm selling.

Here's an example of the unintuitive pain-in-the-assed-ness of SGC population reports. I just ran these searches within the hour:

1) In the keyword field, I typed in: e90-1

No specific matches found, it tells you to type in a player name and year.

Seriously, shouldn't the user be able to simply type in the keyword e90-1, and get a population report for the entire set?

2) In the keyword field, I typed in: American Caramel

Ditto

3) In the year field, I typed in: 1909

American Caramel pops up as one of the possibilities, so I click on it, but it only gives the population reports for e91s.

4) In the year field, I typed in: 1910

American Caramel pops up again as one of the possibilities, so I click on it, but it only gives the population reports for e125s

5) I type in: 1909-11 (as e90-1's were produced all 3 years)

Among the possibilities that pop up are:

a) e90-1
b) American Caramel

So I clicked on e90-1 first. One name pops up. Larry McLean. That's it. It's like running a population report check for T231's (this is the only place I know where I can use this analogy, if I ever used such an analogy to my friends they'd beat me with a stick).

Doesn't somebody at SGC have a computer whiz son, home from school for the summer, who can fix the reports and make the population search process a little less byzantine?

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:45 PM
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Posted By: leon

When you collect based on true rarity and not only condition rarity then who needs a pop report?




Otherwise, I don't think there will ever be a universal registry for several reasons, not the least of which PSA would never do it. And I am not sure SGC would either......PSA, SGC and Beckett all do decent jobs overall....

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