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Old 07-09-2018, 10:17 AM
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It has been brought up that perhaps the man he gave it to was posing as Goodwin, but was not actually him.

There is also the matter of the $20,000 for the list of former major league players and their contact info. Why would an auction house need or care about that?

It is at least a possibility that Kranepool was the victim of a fraud perpetrated by someone claiming to be Goodwin.
According to the complaint, Kranepool's business partner Spencer Lader introduced him to Goodwin at a lunch. And the three of them then went to Kranepool's home. It sure doesn't sound like a case of someone posing as Goodwin.
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Was Goodwin wearing a turban?
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Assuming every such transaction would involve a contract or form, reminds me when my 81 year old dad and I stopped by Rite Aid to pick up a bottle of wine for my mother. Rite Aid's policy is to card everyone for liquor-- so, in case of dispute, they can testify that their employees card everyone--, so I had them look at my dad's license, so he could tell people he was carded.
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Peter-Given the alleged facts presented in the News article, isn't it strange that Goodwin is not a party to the suit?
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Peter-Given the alleged facts presented in the News article, isn't it strange that Goodwin is not a party to the suit?
Kranepool's counsel framed his cause of action as breach of contract, and the alleged contract was with Beckett, not with Goodwin individually. That said, it would not surprise me if he amends to add a count for conversion and names Goodwin individually in that count.
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Kranepool's counsel framed his cause of action as breach of contract, and the alleged contract was with Beckett, not with Goodwin individually. That said, it would not surprise me if he amends to add a count for conversion and names Goodwin individually in that count.
Lawyer talk gets me all tingly .
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Spencer Lader has his own interesting background:

https://www.leagle.com/decision/1997471172misc2d2991425

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/03/07/n...-lawsuits.html

I suspect there is a LOT more to this than what is covered in a newspaper article.

And Kranepool is beloved in NY plus he needs a new kidney so there is a lot to this story

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Seems like it could be a time bomb for Goodwin. Haven't there been rumors/grumblings about his practices previously? I don't know any details, just a sense I have.

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https://www.nytimes.com/1985/03/07/n...-lawsuits.html

I suspect there is a LOT more to this than what is covered in a newspaper article.

And Kranepool is beloved in NY plus he needs a new kidney so there is a lot to this story

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According to the complaint, Kranepool's business partner Spencer Lader introduced him to Goodwin at a lunch. And the three of them then went to Kranepool's home. It sure doesn't sound like a case of someone posing as Goodwin.
See Mr. Klein's post below regarding Mr. Lader's fraud history. Very interesting.
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Pure speculation here, but what if Mr Lader introduced Kranepool to someone claiming to be Goodwin but was not him? Longshot but it would explain a lot.
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Ugh, those articles make me want to shower to rinse off the scum.
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It seems like whoever does actually have the jersey is sitting on a mostly worthless jersey without its association and provenance from Kranepool. How does the owner intend to profit? The story is too widely known now to auction a Mantle jersey and use Kranepool's name to cement provenance, knowing he's suing for half a million.

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Pure speculation here, but what if Mr Lader introduced Kranepool to someone claiming to be Goodwin but was not him? Longshot but it would explain a lot.
The very end of the Daily News article suggests that Lader (as well as a third person) have their own claims against Beckett for the same conduct. All represented by the same lawyer.

My spider sense is telling me there is more to this story.
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After reading the articles in Rich’s post I can’t help but think Mr. Lader is going to be the center piece of this controversy.

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The saddest thing is that Kranepool is in poor health and the stress of this cannot be helping his health issues.
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See Mr. Klein's post below regarding Mr. Lader's fraud history. Very interesting.
So maybe Mr. Lader is now defrauding Kranepool? This one certainly will be interesting as it plays out.

There should be a way to verify whether Goodwin was indeed on Long Island on the day in question.
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