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Old 05-26-2011, 06:51 AM
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Default Beware of Babe Ruth Balls With Bogus PSA-DNA Documentation

Just want to give a heads up about the latest scandal. I know a pawn shop owner in Tampa that just got ripped off from the same person.

Please be careful out there......

My website has a link to this story....

www.SportsCollectingNews.com



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Old 05-26-2011, 07:18 AM
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"Beware of Babe Ruth Balls With Bogus PSA-DNA Documentation"


is this like a Dillinger type thing. I would have thought he was buried with them
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:33 AM
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No shortage of scumbags out there.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:41 PM
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"I know you paid $5000 for this ball, but, because you're desperate, I'll give you a grand."

Pawnshops legally prey on the desperate, the downtrodden, and the uneducated.

I certainly don't endorse forgery, but if someone's gonna get taken, let it be a pawnshop.

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Old 05-27-2011, 04:26 AM
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no matter how we feel about pawn shops, theives faking a psa-dna document and putting forged products into our hobby is awful and the latest scam.

I Just wanted to give people a heads up.
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Old 05-27-2011, 06:03 AM
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how are they forging the psa/dna documents
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:17 AM
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"I know you paid $5000 for this ball, but, because you're desperate, I'll give you a grand."

Pawnshops legally prey on the desperate, the downtrodden, and the uneducated.

I certainly don't endorse forgery, but if someone's gonna get taken, let it be a pawnshop.
Since the ball was fake, it was probably more like " so I need to sell this Babe Ruth ball. I paid 5k but I really need a thousand right now"

Nobody forces anyone to sell stuff to a Pawnshop.
How much profit is fair? How much to advertize, keep the rent paid, lights on, staff paid, healthcare paid for, taxes paid on inventory, cost of inventory itself......Nobody complains when WalMart makes 5x cost on an item, but if a small business does it they're preying on people.

A bank can charge 12-30% for essentially the same thing - providing loans via credit card. I'll bet if the guy asked for a loan he'd have gotten more and at a better rate than the banks would give him. Tried getting a personal loan lately?

And if someone really paid 5K for a ball wouldn't they have a better chance of getting good price from the dealer they bought it from, or on Ebay.
If someone had 5K to actually spend on a ball, and is desperate enough to need a pawnshop it's likely the problem is one of their own making.



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Old 05-27-2011, 01:46 PM
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would have loved to see what this fake PSA/DNA Cert looked like.
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Old 05-27-2011, 03:40 PM
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Since the ball was fake, it was probably more like " so I need to sell this Babe Ruth ball. I paid 5k but I really need a thousand right now"

Nobody forces anyone to sell stuff to a Pawnshop.
How much profit is fair? How much to advertize, keep the rent paid, lights on, staff paid, healthcare paid for, taxes paid on inventory, cost of inventory itself......Nobody complains when WalMart makes 5x cost on an item, but if a small business does it they're preying on people.

A bank can charge 12-30% for essentially the same thing - providing loans via credit card. I'll bet if the guy asked for a loan he'd have gotten more and at a better rate than the banks would give him. Tried getting a personal loan lately?

And if someone really paid 5K for a ball wouldn't they have a better chance of getting good price from the dealer they bought it from, or on Ebay.
If someone had 5K to actually spend on a ball, and is desperate enough to need a pawnshop it's likely the problem is one of their own making.



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Nonsense. A pawnshop, by its very nature, preys on desperate people who, for the most part, have no place else to go.

When's the last time you saw the three balls hanging in an upscale part of town?
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Just want to give a heads up about the latest scandal. I know a pawn shop owner in Tampa that just got ripped off from the same person.

Please be careful out there......

My website has a link to this story....

www.SportsCollectingNews.com


Thanx for the report Mike.
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:55 AM
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Nonsense. A pawnshop, by its very nature, preys on desperate people who, for the most part, have no place else to go.
I guess you can say the same things about lawyers, doctors, consultants, repairmen and lots of other people out there.

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I guess you can say the same things about lawyers, doctors, consultants, repairmen and lots of other people out there.
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