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Old 10-30-2005, 06:49 PM
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Posted By: Paul

Al Lopez, who was the oldest living member of the baseball Hall of Fame, died today. It is reported on the main page of the Hall of Fame's website, www.baseballhalloffame.com. It's nice that he got to see his White Sox win the Series. I hope he was healthy enough to watch and appreciate it.

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Old 10-30-2005, 06:56 PM
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I saw that too Paul and I really hope he enjoyed the series. Here are my favorite Lopez that I own.

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Old 10-30-2005, 09:39 PM
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:14 PM
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Posted By: john/z28jd

You gotta love(sarcastically) the ambulance chasers on ebay who list items as soon as people die.They do it everytime.

Al Lopez items currently for auction on ebay listed before his passing was announced-47
Items listed in the last 5 hours-38

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Old 10-31-2005, 12:56 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

My favorite was when Flo-Jo died. You couldn't give away her Starting LineUp figure. Then she died and people were paying $100 or more for it. Now you can't give it away again Wish her family had come forward and admitted that she used steroids and that it way have lead to her early death. She, along with Ben Johnson are classic case studies in what steroids do to you, good and bad. I forget what magazine it was in, but they ran side by side photos of the two when they were marginal world class sprinters and how they changed physically over the years to the point where they were setting records. They could have been twins. Bloated, fat faces. Bodies that all of the sudden gained a ton of muscle mass and the bad acne. The only difference between the 2 is that Ben got caught and Flo-Jo didn't.

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Old 10-31-2005, 01:17 AM
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Posted By: davidcycleback

A common expresseion of mine when an old timer celebrity like Al Lopez dies is, "I didn't realize he was alive."

There's a 94 year old guy who lives alone in a house down the street. Does all his own cooking, cleaning, shopping-- which in part explains why he's still around. Said he had to learn how to cook when his wife died three years ago. He catches all the football and baseball games on tv. Henry and I visit him at few times a week and I'm sure others neighbors do as well.

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Old 10-31-2005, 03:44 AM
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It's as if once the White Sox won the series, his life was complete and he could go in peace.

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Old 10-31-2005, 06:39 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

For many years Lopez was the oldest living Hall of Famer. The new leader is Phil Rizzuto.

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Old 10-31-2005, 12:58 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I believe Bill is still alive. He might be the last
player still living that was in the 1933 Goudey set.
Also, the 1936 Diamond Star series (last card #108).

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Old 10-31-2005, 02:14 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Ted- Funny, but Michael Olenick and I were talking about Werber this morning and wondering if he were still alive. I believe Eldon Auker is up there, too. But neither of course are HOfers.

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Old 10-31-2005, 02:29 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

My understanding is that Eldon is still living. He first
appeared on the Play Ball cards.

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Old 10-31-2005, 03:23 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Isn't Auker in either the 33 or 34 Goudey sets? Or both? Too lazy to check it.

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Old 10-31-2005, 04:23 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Barry

Although Eldon's Major Lge. career started in 1932,
he is not in any Goudey set. His first appearance
in any kind of issue is the 1936 R313 Fine Pens.
He is also in all the PlayBall (1939 - 41) sets.

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Old 10-31-2005, 04:44 PM
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Posted By: Tim Newcomb

Actually Auker appears in the R309-2 premium set, which is either 1933 or 1934, isn't it?

Fun thread--

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Old 10-31-2005, 04:59 PM
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Posted By: Elliot

A couple of minor corrections. Billy Werber is not in the '33 Goudey set, but he is in the '34 Goudeys. Also, he is in the Diamond Star issue, but not as the last card. Wally Berger is card #108.

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Old 10-31-2005, 05:34 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Live and learn. I could have sworn Auker was in the set. Is Werber the oldest living major leaguer, or just among the oldest? Players rarely reach 100.

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Old 10-31-2005, 08:37 PM
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Posted By: john/z28jd

Former Pirates infielder Howard Howdy Groskloss is the current oldest at 99.


edited to correct spelling of former which was formerly spelled wrong

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Old 10-31-2005, 09:55 PM
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

Since the subject of the oldest living player has come up....

Does anyone know how many players are still living that are not covered under the players union pension plan. It's a really sad subject. It's kind of a shame that these old timers have been pretty much written off. Not trying to hijack the thread, just wondering if anyone happens to have the numbers....

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:13 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

According to the recent SABR-l thread, Aucker is the oldest living major leaguer.

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:32 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Werber is likely the only surviving player who appeared in the 34 Goudey set. Anyone still living from the 33 set or any set previous? The record of course is Chet Hoff, who appeared in the T207 set and was still alive in 1998!!!

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:50 AM
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Posted By: john/z28jd

Jay,Auker isnt even in the top 10 among oldest living players.He was born on September 21,1910 which ranks him as the 13th oldest former major leaguer.My above answer is correct

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Old 11-01-2005, 10:12 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

Nice edit after my post I was just about to make the change. Someone mentioned him on the SABR-l list but didn't appear on it until today.

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Old 11-03-2005, 06:59 AM
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Posted By: Bob Lemke

According to my records, Al Lopez was the final survivor among those who appeared in the 1934-36 Diamond Stars issues. In 1933 Goudey, the sole survivor is Jo-Jo Moore. In 1934 Goudey, there remain three: Bill Werber, Linus Frey and Dolph Camilli.

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Bob, Billy Werber is in the Diamond Star set...here's his card:

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Posted By: barrysloate

According to the Baseball Encyclopedia, Howdy Grossklos turned 98 this past June- the other three that Bob Lemke cited are between 95 and 97. Auker is also 95. Let's see who makes it to 100.

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Old 11-03-2005, 12:20 PM
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Do you know that if Howdy Grossklos served as a juror he would be doing his Howdy duty?

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Old 11-03-2005, 08:53 PM
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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Dolph Camilli died Oct. 21, 1997. Jo Jo Moore died in 2001.

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:15 PM
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Posted By: Bob Lemke

I had started my death roll from an older edition of the Encyclopedia and irregularly tried to update via the Social Security on-line death registry.

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Old 11-07-2005, 07:54 AM
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Posted By: Rich Klein

Sorry about that pun -- but SABR has a biographical committee headed by Bill Carle who keeps tabs on all of these over-90 former major leaguers.

If you are not a member of SABR, I heartily recommend joining for many reasons, most of which are especially applicable to this group.

And if you live anywhere near Hot Springs, Arkansas; there is a really cool "Deadball" Weekend coming in March. You can see the sights (or some of them) where the pre-war Greats worked out their off-season kinks before playing each season.


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