Filthy rich MLB screws the fan again

[mcgwirecom]

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...gamer-shes-ok/

So the gist of the story is that the Nats were giving the fans the "shirts off our backs" as a lot of teams do on the final game of the season (or maybe another game). This woman won Jordan Zimmermanns jersey. She found out before the game. But after he threw the no hitter things were changed. Story says she didn't mind because she is a fan. But as a collector how would you feel? You spend the whole game watching him throw a no-no and you are thinking, "wow, I'm getting his jersey" but nooooo! Sorry but I'd be pissed.

[Runscott]

Zimmerman was obligated to give her his jersey - he could have just put on a spare for an inning, then gone back to the old one and given her the 1-inning jersey. I realize that players aren't thinking about stuff like that, but if that's the case....she has to get the jersey.

[Econteachert205]

If there is going to be a substitute it should be a hell of a lot better than an auto jersey. She should get Season tickets or a full team signed jersey. Something equitable. But having said that, they should've given her the damn jersey.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

If there is going to be a substitute it should be a hell of a lot better than an auto jersey. She should get Season tickets or a full team signed jersey. Something equitable. But having said that, they should've given her the damn jersey.

She should get tickets to the first playoff game he pitches, and then get THAT jersey (unless it's another no-no and then she should get the next jersey he wears in the playoffs.)

[drcy]

There's the old joke about the 1800 treaty the white man drew up for an Indian tribe. It said "The Indians shall own this territory for as long as the sun rises, the seasons change and rivers have water. Or six months, whichever comes first."

[sbfinley]

I don't see what the issue is... She won a contest, gets on the field, receives an autographed jersey and picture with Zimmermann, and gets to witness a No-Hitter as her team enters the playoffs as a division winner? If it was me I wouldn't be a dick and try to argue with Zimmermann that the jersey belongs to me either. He should frame it and give it to his kids. She seems like the type of person who loves baseball for the game, not how much a cardboard picture of player or a jersey she won is worth. Kudos to her.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Zimmerman was obligated to give her his jersey - he could have just put on a spare for an inning, then gone back to the old one and given her the 1-inning jersey. I realize that players aren't thinking about stuff like that, but if that's the case....she has to get the jersey.

I may be the only person thinking this way, but baseball is so heavily steeped in tradition and superstition. Even more so with no-hitters and perfect games, FWIW.

Most pitchers who found themselves fortunate enough to be in a position of throwing a no-hitter would likely never change a jersey for one inning. Tradition and superstition typically dictates that teammates don't even talk to a pitcher in the midst of throwing a no-hitter in later innings, etc.

Just sayin'!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

I may be the only person thinking this way, but baseball is so heavily steeped in tradition and superstition. Even more so with no-hitters and perfect games, FWIW.

Most pitchers who found themselves fortunate enough to be in a position of throwing a no-hitter would likely never change a jersey for one inning. Tradition and superstition typically dictates that teammates don't even talk to a pitcher in the midst of throwing a no-hitter in later innings, etc.

Just sayin'!

I agree with this but they really should have given her something as valuable as a game worn no hit shirt as a substitute. I don't care for MLB anyway though.....it' been about 20 yrs this year that I haven't liked it.

[Jay Wolt]

it' been about 20 yrs this year that I haven't liked it.

ahhh! The strike and the cancellation of the World Series!
Ironically Baseball hit the jackpot 4 years later w/ the McGwire/Sosa HR Derby season.
Now they are tainted as well.
Baseball is one resilient sport

[billyb]

The team used the promotion to better their sales. They gave their word the jersey was to go to the winner of that promotion. A verbal contract is what it is. They backed out of their contract without the woman's consent. Oh she agreed, I guess, but they probably made it clear, she was not going to get the uniform.
It should have been her decision to keep the jersey or let the team/player keep it with an equal value item for the exchange. It was hers, and she was wronged by a breach of contract.
A promise is a promise.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

ahhh! The strike and the cancellation of the World Series!
Ironically Baseball hit the jackpot 4 years later w/ the McGwire/Sosa HR Derby season.
Now they are tainted as well.
Baseball is one resilient sport

That's because the nastiness always has the potential of being cleaned up, and that's what we want. It took a long time for most of us to get over the strike, but all it took for some to get over the steroid thing (partially, anyway) was when the HOF voters began shunning those guys as they became eligible.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

I may be the only person thinking this way, but baseball is so heavily steeped in tradition and superstition. Even more so with no-hitters and perfect games, FWIW.

Most pitchers who found themselves fortunate enough to be in a position of throwing a no-hitter would likely never change a jersey for one inning. Tradition and superstition typically dictates that teammates don't even talk to a pitcher in the midst of throwing a no-hitter in later innings, etc.

Just sayin'!

I'm surprised it took someone this long to respond this way (which I actually agree with - I never mention no-hitters when I'm attending a game and one is in progress) - but I'm truly humbled that my post was read by one person.

But, on the other hand, he might have felt that the 'no-hitter gods' would take away his no-hitter if he didn't honor the agreement with the fan, and thus get around the blighting by the gods by donning another jersey for one inning.

[Bugsy]

I guess I can understand if he wants to keep it for himself or if it is being sent to the Hall of Fame, but replacing it with a signed jersey is pretty weak. Hopefully the replacement jersey was a game worn one, but I doubt it. It always seems like teams are extremely stingy when it comes to stuff like this. You catch a guy's 500th home run and they offer you a signed baseball.

[mcgwirecom]

It's like hitting the lottery and then they call you up and say, "we didn't expect those numbers to come out, we have another prize for you instead" Anything can happen in a game so they should be prepared for it.

[GoCubsGo32]

I wish the story was about the fan that wins the jersey and gives it back to Zimmerman. She seemed like it didn't bother her he kept it but, you still have to award her the item she won. I wonder if in the auction there was a very very very small print in the clause in case something like this happens?

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32

I wonder if in the auction there was a very very very small print in the clause in case something like this happens?

I can't speak for the Washington charity raffle, but I can tell you that the Mets allow fans to pre-order baseballs and bases used in "today's" game.


(Photo taken May 21, 2014. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here.)

You may not be able to see it in the photo, but the last bulleted item on the sign is a clause that allows the club "to cancel orders at any time." Which means, I guess, that if you pre-ordered a ball used in "today's" game for $40, but the game turns out to be a no-hitter, you're getting your money back, not a game-used ball.