How does Shohei Ohtani have a RC card?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He has cards from Japan dating back I believe to 2013. Why anyone would pay these prices for what is essentially a 6th year card of him is beyond me.

Japanese cards, I believe, are equated to minor league cards in the hobby. Similar to people having less respect for the 90's Best cards than the player's first major release. Yet that is still only a tangent as to why Topps was allowed to make these non-prospect cards prior to the season, or any official announcement of him being added to a ML roster.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Japanese cards, I believe, are equated to minor league cards in the hobby. Similar to people having less respect for the 90's Best cards than the player's first major release. Yet that is still only a tangent as to why Topps was allowed to make these non-prospect cards prior to the season, or any official announcement of him being added to a ML roster.

Haven't we seen a few other aberrations from the stated policy before? I seem to recall a thread about this when discussing the Aaron Judge Topps Now first card.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Haven't we seen a few other aberrations from the stated policy before? I seem to recall a thread about this when discussing the Aaron Judge Topps Now first card.

The first Topps Now card with a RC logo was after his first major league game with the Yankees. Prior to that Judge had "Call Up" cards, which are considered prospect cards until they use the proper "RC" logo.

[Peter_Spaeth]

But didn't he have a 2016 card with an RC logo, and if so, how can he have official RCs in two different years.

[Peter_Spaeth]

This -- a 2016 Judge with an RC official designation.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This -- a 2016 Judge with an RC official designation.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

Oh come on if you were going to show one you could I have used my ebay sold listing from this past weekend to drive people my way. haha

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32278912498...84.m1561.l2649

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But didn't he have a 2016 card with an RC logo, and if so, how can he have official RCs in two different years.

There is an odd 2016 Card that was sent to Yankees Season Ticket holders. From what I can tell, though, is it was produced in 2016 and sent to the ticket holders through the 2017 season. Aaron Judge did play in 2016, though, so it isn't breaking the "RC" logo rule. I do believe it does still push the line though having it produced in 2016, and producing most of his RC in 2017.

That one still just seems borderline. Whereas the Ohtani cards seem like a blatant disregard to the rules based on a gamble (even if it did appear more like a sure thing a month ago).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

There is an odd 2016 Card that was sent to Yankees Season Ticket holders. From what I can tell, though, is it was produced in 2016 and sent to the ticket holders through the 2017 season. Aaron Judge did play in 2016, though, so it isn't breaking the "RC" logo rule. I do believe it does still push the line though having it produced in 2016, and producing most of his RC in 2017.

That one still just seems borderline. Whereas the Ohtani cards seem like a blatant disregard to the rules based on a gamble (even if it did appear more like a sure thing a month ago).

To my mind a guy cannot have official rookie cards in two different years, that makes no sense at all.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To my mind a guy cannot have official rookie cards in two different years, that makes no sense at all.

Agreed. Again from my research, though, I really think the card was made in 2016 but wasn't distributed until 2017. I could certainly be wrong, as this is only based on my questioning the sellers I was buying from. I think the card has a copyright of 2016, but maybe should be considered a 2017 card. I don't know if there is an "official" (loose term, I know) ruling on this card though.

This still feels like a side subject, though, because they at least waited until Judge had played a ML game. They didn't do that for Ohtani. They didn't even wait for him to make the team. Whereas Judge was playing for an ML team in 2016, but Topps waited until 2017 (with exception to the noted card above) before releasing "RC" cards and instead released only prospect/call-up cards in 2016.