Marino Cuts (Operation Bullpen)

[mschwade]

I'm in the middle of reading Operation Bullpen for the first time, and read the pricelist of "Vintage Cuts" that Greg had. One of those listed was Tony Lazzeri $275. Does anybody have an example of this cut or any other Marino cuts that they wouldn't mind posting scans?

Thanks,
Matt

[earlywynnfan]

I'd say the one thing that has stuck with me forever from that book is the subject of "cuts." They talked about how there really was no such thing as "cuts" before Marino started forging them. I know this isn't 100% true, but, much like thinking about Jaws when I dip my toes in Lake Erie, I cannot not think about it when I see an expensive cut.

Ken

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I'd say the one thing that has stuck with me forever from that book is the subject of "cuts." They talked about how there really was no such thing as "cuts" before Marino started forging them. I know this isn't 100% true, but, much like thinking about Jaws when I dip my toes in Lake Erie, I cannot not think about it when I see an expensive cut.

Ken

+1...

Ken,

I have the same feelings about cuts and anything signed by Mantle....fantastic book.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

+1...

Ken,

I have the same feelings about cuts and anything signed by Mantle....fantastic book.

+1 on the Mantle comment.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I'd say the one thing that has stuck with me forever from that book is the subject of "cuts." They talked about how there really was no such thing as "cuts" before Marino started forging them. I know this isn't 100% true, but, much like thinking about Jaws when I dip my toes in Lake Erie, I cannot not think about it when I see an expensive cut.

Ken

That statement is 100% wrong.
Ron Dross, the first big time forger, and Dave Zimmerman, ex NY Mets batboy, both specialized in cuts. I saw them sell LARGE quantities of cuts over the years.
Only good thing I can say now is that both of them stole a lot of money but both are now 6 feet underground.

[David Atkatz]

Of course they are.
If they weren't, you would never state their names while calling them forgers.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Of course they are.
If they weren't, you would never state their names while calling them forgers.

You do an awesome job of calling out others, so how about this: when you finally respond to the Frank Prisco or whatever his name was situation -- you know, the one where you were your typical caustic self, then got some lawyer letter, then we never heard from you again -- and maybe Richard will respond to you.

Or, a second alternative: post something useful sometime! I see two posts here, both meant to inflame, neither useful in any othe way.

Ken

[RichardSimon]

Thanks for calling him out Ken, but I won't respond to him.
Why bother?

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

you do an awesome job of calling out others, so how about this: When you finally respond to the frank prisco or whatever his name was situation -- you know, the one where you were your typical caustic self, then got some lawyer letter, then we never heard from you again -- and maybe richard will respond to you.

Or, a second alternative: Post something useful sometime! I see two posts here, both meant to inflame, neither useful in any othe way.

Ken

+1 really like

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

You do an awesome job of calling out others, so how about this: when you finally respond to the Frank Prisco or whatever his name was situation -- you know, the one where you were your typical caustic self, then got some lawyer letter, then we never heard from you again -- and maybe Richard will respond to you.

Or, a second alternative: post something useful sometime! I see two posts here, both meant to inflame, neither useful in any othe way.

Ken

Judging by your comment, Ken, I'm thinking that Mr. Atkatz is taking shots at Richard again, though I refuse to read what he writes as I continue to have him on block.

It's sad that Mr. Atkatz, allegedly a grown man, will do anything to get attention. Why make a comment under such an informative autograph thread in an attempt to bait Richard into writing a retaliatory comment, which he would have every right to do. Then it looks like Richard is inflaming this thread. But people should see Atkatz for what he really is: a petty agitator.

Maybe you want take a shot at me, Mr. Atkatz. Go ahead, because I won't turn the other cheek. I will inflame this thread. The difference between you and me, Mr. Atkatz, is that you're desperate for people to pay attention to you, whereas I don't need to create that desperation like you do.

My knees have never buckled despite the numerous threats I've received over the years. Your knees buckled during the Prisco thread, didn't they, Mr. Atkatz? One legal threat to you and you turn into a clam. Why would anyone have been surprised then?

[David Atkatz]

Sounds like a job for Shelly. He's always looking for ways to improve the hobby.
Posting examples of less-well-known Marino forgeries sounds like a good way to me.

(Gee... I hope this doesn't start another thread.)

[travrosty]

I had always hoped the fbi would have a webpage somewhere where they posted all the examples of the operation bullpen autographs they had, so people could be informed about them. I don't see a downside to this.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by travrosty

I had always hoped the fbi would have a webpage somewhere where they posted all the examples of the operation bullpen autographs they had, so people could be informed about them. I don't see a downside to this.

I second that suggestion!

Ken

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I second that suggestion!

Ken

Has anyone kept any pics of Marino's? Maybe that would be a good starting point for someone or a team of people to start putting something together.