Show...me...your print variations!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jcfowler6

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That is awesome, print offsets are among my favorite cards.

[swarmee]

PSA should have given that an OF qualifier. A straight EX 5 is a gift, IMO.

[ALR-bishop]

Maybe the grader thought Wagner actually looked like that.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

PSA should have given that an OF qualifier. A straight EX 5 is a gift, IMO.

Maybe the grader didn't have his glasses on and every card looked like that.

[G1911]

1970 Topps Stan Bahnsen (#568) - sheet markings on the left, a bit more than the Slit markings you usually see on these sheet edge cards

[rjax]

I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...

[rjax]

I also have a blank front 1970-71 Maravich rookie...found in a small collection I picked up a few years ago...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rjax

I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Fox and Stargel are NOT missing yellow error cards, they are altered. Both of those cards are faded from setting in the sun.

[Jcfowler6]

I love cards like this.




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[Jcfowler6]

Always liked the dash lines at the bottom on this one.


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[ALR-bishop]

Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page

[Jcfowler6]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page

Thanks Al. I think it’s Mudcat Grant.



Added later- Yep it is for sure.



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[deweyinthehall]

Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.

[ALR-bishop]

Maybe Moser could fix it

[moeson]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.

I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.

[Baseballcrazy62]

Is there generally a premium for the 1958 Slaughter that is missing the blank ink on the back? I recently found one in my collection and then did a quick search on EBay and didn’t see any. Just curious.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62

Is there generally a premium for the 1958 Slaughter that is missing the blank ink on the back? I recently found one in my collection and then did a quick search on EBay and didn’t see any. Just curious.

It is extremely rare. The only two that I know of are one that Al R. got on a pricey Buy-It-Now on eBay three years ago, and an unlisted one that I luckily found from Dean's Cards a year or so ago. The one I got was of course over priced considering it was from Dean's if it was just a normally printed 1958 Slaughter in very good condition, but being the rare print flaw version I was happy to pay the $17 or whatever it was. These types of cards are a niche only pursued by a small percentage of vintage collectors, most collectors either ignore them or look down upon those who collect them, but all it takes is two fervent bidders to fight over a very rare desired item.

[Baseballcrazy62]

Cliff: Thanks for the quick response. Here is the picture of the back of the card.D14C527D-C62E-476A-B8B3-ED661EFA2589.jpg

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Baseballcrazy62

Cliff: Thanks for the quick response. Here is the picture of the back of the card.Attachment 374880

Wow, it looks like it is very well centered and in nice condition, much better than my off centered soft cornered one.

[MikeGarcia]

..top edge was as much ripped from the sheet as it was "cut" ; yet this is a somewhat rare defect in the '57's from what I've seen....many many other defects exist though , with centering being at the tiptop of my bitchlist....I love this set ; completing a total totally complete , '57 set is a fun challenge and just wait 'til you try for both vars of the 4/5 checklists....

..

[Sliphorn]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

It is extremely rare. The only two that I know of are one that Al R. got on a pricey Buy-It-Now on eBay three years ago, and an unlisted one that I luckily found from Dean's Cards a year or so ago. The one I got was of course over priced considering it was from Dean's if it was just a normally printed 1958 Slaughter in very good condition, but being the rare print flaw version I was happy to pay the $17 or whatever it was. These types of cards are a niche only pursued by a small percentage of vintage collectors, most collectors either ignore them or look down upon those who collect them, but all it takes is two fervent bidders to fight over a very rare desired item.

I also have one, so that makes three for sure.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

I also have one, so that makes three for sure.

Four, now . I just found another 58 Drabowsky on Dean’s Cards, so the 58 cards affected might not be as rare as I thought. Only one 58 Jolly is known of, hopefully a few more show up.

[Sliphorn]

Notice the orange blobs. There are MANY of these on COMC and eBay for sale.

[ejstel]

1969 variation.

Hi does anyone happen to have a 1969 Washburn with white arm band pic available?

"Var=White slash bottom left corner plus white arm band"

I have seen the white slash bottom left but haven't noticed a variation/arm band...maybe I am missing something.

Thanks again.

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[ALR-bishop]

Do not have and have not seen the white arm band version. I do have 2 versions of the white slash at the left bottom border. In one it is all white and in the other it has a reddish or brownish mark in the white slash.

Where have you seen the white band listed ? Brightair ( Dingman) ?

Another variant collector ? What years ?

Welcome to the thread

[packs]

Sun damage or not I still think this blue box Mantle is a sweet card:

[swarmee]

1960 Topps - [Base] #526 - Paul Giel [Good*to*VG‑EX]
Courtesy of COMC.com

Recurring two yellow streaks in inset.

[Tripredacus]

Originally Posted by ejstel

1969 variation.

Hi does anyone happen to have a 1969 Washburn with white arm band pic available?

"Var=White slash bottom left corner plus white arm band"

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Do not have and have not seen the white arm band version.

Could it be something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362853762069

There is white on the shoulder on down past the elbow... and really looks like it goes down to the mark at the bottom.

Present in this one also: https://www.ebay.com/itm/233196339512

Otherwise if it is not that, it could be either a print error on the player in the background on the front, or perhaps on the cartoon guy on the back.

[ejstel]

Re 1969 Washburn
...hi thank you I think it is the white on white arm line that I wasn't noticing in my search.

I had seen it listed in this lis (link below) but couldn't identify...

https://sites.google.com/site/richar...ns-1960---1969

Also thank you for posting all - and the yellow wash card... interesting.

Best,
Ed

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[ALR-bishop]

That is Richard Dingman's site. Great resource. He is a member and sometimes posts in this thread as brightair

[4reals]

Been a while since I contributed, forgive me if these have already been mentioned.

1973 Topps Rau rookie with black ink missing. I’ve seen quite a few, not super hard to het one.




On the 62s you see the neon green color a lot because of the solution used to clean the printing plates. On the right card it completely wiped out the “r” in Cards. Haven’t seen another and I’ll trade it for a cool Dodgers print defect if anyone has one I don’t already have.




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[Republicaninmass]

Just picked this up. Busted yellow plate

Notice the white area of where cardinals logo should be yellow, is the same as the yellow in the white name box.

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[Econteachert205]

A Yaz with lots of yellow and some white print anomalies as well.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Nice find Dennis....a while back I came across both an extra yellow copy (right sleeve, back ground/clouds) and an extra red copy (top of hat, background stands).

[savedfrommyspokes]

Found this 71 T Hisle card with what looks like some non-factory ink spilled on the card while out in circulation. However, it seems to be a print variant afterall as I was able to locate another copy of this card with what appears to be the same print anomaly but with far less ink. It almost looks like during the printing process someone tried to but was not able to remove all signs of this anomaly in subsequent printings. Anyone else have a copy of either?

[Cliff Bowman]

Battersbox on eBay has a nice copy of the lighter version... well they did two minutes ago anyway .

[steve B]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Found this 71 T Hisle card with what looks like some non-factory ink spilled on the card while out in circulation. However, it seems to be a print variant afterall as I was able to locate another copy of this card with what appears to be the same print anomaly but with far less ink. It almost looks like during the printing process someone tried to but was not able to remove all signs of this anomaly in subsequent printings. Anyone else have a copy of either?

That's a crazy one. There must have been something spilled on some part of the camera equipment for it to have ended up on both the black and magenta plates (maybe others too? )

[aronbenabe]

Adding to the mix...


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[jchcollins]

Sorry if this has already been covered. I scrolled through about the first 15 pages of this thread and didn’t see it, though: ‘58 Mantle base card and the print defect / variation next to his left eye. The copy I picked up this week has this, and I began to get a little worried as I looked around and saw that others didn’t. But then I began to find them. Including at least one in a PSA 7 slab, so that made me feel a little bit better.

Normal card without print spot:



Copies with it. The ungraded card here is mine:




You can see what I’m talking about, straight up from the word “New” in the team name below. Kind of like a fisheye if it were elsewhere on the card. I’ve seen this anywhere from a light blip up to a dark red dot. It seems to occur in maybe one out of 20 or slightly more cards that I looked at on eBay and online. I guess on the whole, if you could choose it’s undesirable, but I don’t know… This doesn’t jump out at me the way print snow on his cap would, or even a similar sized defect on the orange background field probably would.

Weird stuff, but as we know by now, print defects like this are anything but rare on 1958 Topps cards...


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[savedfrommyspokes]

Found this progressive print variation....one copy is partially blackened with excess ink on the "Major....Record" line while on the other copy that entire line is blackened including the area past the left border.

[mrmopar]

Was waiting to share this one in case I got a different copy or it was some sort of weird effect with the scan itself and not actually the card. This is how the card looks. Some sort of black ink bleeding to make it look like Reggie has a very massive birthmark on his face. It almost looks like it could be right if you didn't already know better.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Was waiting to share this one in case I got a different copy or it was some sort of weird effect with the scan itself and not actually the card. This is how the card looks. Some sort of black ink bleeding to make it look like Reggie has a very massive birthmark on his face. It almost looks like it could be right if you didn't already know better.

It's recurring, I'm waiting on one from COMC and got another one from a board member a year or two ago. ETA: it looks your copy is a little more extreme than my copies around his mouth and nose.

[irv]

Already discussed??

A green splotch on Archie Wilson's left eyebrow. Doing a quick search, it seems the majority of his cards have this splotch but there are some that don't.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...ih=578&dpr=1.5

[ALR-bishop]

Good one Dale

[swarmee]

1954 Topps #34 Jim Rivera: semi-circle at bottom of box on back

[aronbenabe]

Just got these cards...the version on left seems to have gray tones in the yellow border.


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[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by aronbenabe

Just got these cards...the version on left seems to have gray tones in the yellow border.


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I have not seen the grey tones in the border before....here are two Stallard cards I have, one with a print defect on upper portions and the other with excess red ink on the lower portion.

[LuckyLarry]

[ALR-bishop]

Neat cards Larry. This is one of my few non Topps/Bowman/Fleer sets. I have the 4 Hal Smith, 6 counting the other guy, and a couple of other front oddities, but had not seen any back variants

[LuckyLarry]

thanks Al these are all high numbered cards "overstruck" with low numbered cards pretty unique all recent pick-ups.
Larry

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Neat cards Larry. This is one of my few non Topps/Bowman/Fleer sets. I have the 4 Hal Smith, 6 counting the other guy, and a couple of other front oddities, but had not seen any back variants