Should Alabama Be Disqualified from the CFP .......

[bravos4evr]

The little schools come begging for this as they might make more $$$ in one game against a powerhouse than they will the entire rest of the season combined.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

The little schools come begging for this as they might make more $$$ in one game against a powerhouse than they will the entire rest of the season combined.

This is what I was going to say. It is a big boon to the small school, and they couldn't do this at the home of the small school, they probably don't have the resources to host a game like this. My college's football stadium wasn't much different than my high school's.

[steve B]

Yep, that's what it really is, a nice "present" to the smaller school. Both to the program financially, and in some ways to the players. The players from the small school get to maybe play against some really top talent, and that's usually a cool experience.

I think a certain number of games like that should be required for all the upper division schools.

Dad didn't play football, but ran track. He qualified for a major meet that included some world class runners. In at least some of the heats the barely qualifying runners raced against the world class runners. Except there was a handicap for the better runners. He said it was amazing, and he ran his best time trying to not get overtaken despite the handicap.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Bama plays in SEC and plays the SEC championship..

every team guns for them and gives them their best.....playing mercer is fine given their whole schedule..

[clydepepper]

Final Score (and nobody cares):

Florida State 77
Delaware State 6


(if their quarterback had not gotten hurt against Alabama and the team had stayed in contention throughout the season, just imagine how many folks would care about THIS cupcake game.)

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

The little schools come begging for this as they might make more $$$ in one game against a powerhouse than they will the entire rest of the season combined.

Yes, multiple reasons for playing these games, and no reason not to other than non-Alabama fan anger.

[nolemmings]

never mind

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Yes, multiple reasons for playing these games, and no reason not to other than non-Alabama fan anger.

Alabama was just an example this week. Non-competitive games to fill the coffers of small schools can legitimately be challenged regardless of the participants and all the big schools participate in this endeavor. I like competitive college football, but watching a game that is 63-0 in the third quarter just doesn't turn me on.

So I love college football, but according to Runscott I hate Alabama and all the other teams that play in these games, which includes all the top 25 Division ! schools and more.

Therefore, I love college football and I hate all the teams that play it.

Boy am I a weird dude?

[Orioles1954]

Not a big issue. It used to be that cupcakes were player during the first two weeks of a season. Several schools are now scheduling them toward the end to rest players. I think it's smart and not a big deal. Alabama's current strength of schedule is 22 and will raise once they play Auburn and in the SEC Title game.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Alabama was just an example this week. Non-competitive games to fill the coffers of small schools can legitimately be challenged regardless of the participants and all the big schools participate in this endeavor. I like competitive college football, but watching a game that is 63-0 in the third quarter just doesn't turn me on.

So I love college football, but according to Runscott I hate Alabama and all the other teams that play in these games, which includes all the top 25 Division ! schools and more.

Therefore, I love college football and I hate all the teams that play it.

Boy am I a weird dude?

Your straw man logic is certainly weird, but par for the internet.

I agree with your second sentence; however, you used Alabama as your example and that's what I responded to. A final-4 contender scheduling a cupcake right before the tough stretch at the end of the season is very different from a non-contender scheduling cupcakes at the beginning of the season. Also, scheduling such games at the beginning of the season can hurt a team's rankings, as I'm sure you know.

I understand the appeal of using a straw man when someone disagrees with you, but I probably agree with your thoughts on how teams use these games early in the season. If you want more back-patting, express your outrage over teams like Wisconsin complaining about being undefeated and ranked fifth, while scheduling cupcake games early in their schedule.

[Runscott]

Frank, I wanted to add that I would probably be considered an 'Alabama hater' - I root against them every game, even when it would help my own team out. I can't help it. I also hate the weeks when there is no good football to watch because of all the cupcake games. I really wish they wouldn't schedule such games.

As a college student, I hated the home games where we played these terrible teams; however, our school tradition dictated that we kiss our date after each score, so it all worked out.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Express your outrage over teams like Wisconsin complaining about being undefeated and ranked fifth, while scheduling cupcake games early in their schedule.

Wisconsin is definitely known for cupcakes but Florida Atlantic is a decent team and who could have known that BYU would be so terrible? Regardless, they are on the outside looking in right now.

[the 'stache]

Every team plays an occasional cupcake. In the last three years, Wisconsin has played LSU twice, and Alabama, out of conference. And for those of you complaining about Wisconsin's strength of schedule this year, when BYU was scheduled, they were a 10-3 team. They've beaten two top 25 teams, and to get to the National Championship, they'll have to knock off a strong #7 Ohio State team.

Last year, Wisconsin was 11-3. Six of their fourteen games were against top 10 ranked opponents (#5 LSU, #8 Michigan State, #4 Michigan, #2 Ohio State, #7 Nebraska, #8 Penn State), and they beat #12 Western Michigan in the Cotton Bowl. Hardly a cupcake schedule.

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Wisconsin is definitely known for cupcakes but Florida Atlantic is a decent team and who could have known that BYU would be so terrible? Regardless, they are on the outside looking in right now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

OSU beats Wisconsin easily.

[minibatsman]

They opened the season as they have for the past 7 years . against FS it was at the time the game of the year. winner is in. Bama opens every year against a top ranked team out of conference. most of the SEC does.
just for a discussion the SEC is down this year. do you really believe that any other team in the country could play a SEC schedule and go undefeated?.
injuries are the reason every team has some cup cake games.
Either way I love collage football. it will work out. ROLE TIDE ROLE.
Don't hate the teams love the games that you are about to watch for the remainder of the season. I hope your team wins as long as they don't play BAMA.

[frankbmd]

I would certainly put Wisconsin in the same basket with Alabama, Ohio State and all the other big schools that have cupcakes. A few years back Wisconsin played mighty Wofford. These games are really a scrimmage rather than a contest.

A few coaches however seem more obsessed than others and exhibit this tendency in the cupcake games when they seem to feel they will be considered more favorably if the winning margin is 80 rather than 60. Urban and Nick come to mind, but there are others.

[minibatsman]

I cant argue the 60 point games against whoever. its a big deal for these small programs financially and for the players to play in these games. and as I said larger teams need these games. also To heal up and tune up for lets say the IRON BOWL but when the second and third string get a chance to play . there going to do as much as they can. if it wasn't for these leads they wouldn't play a single down the entire year. 30 of the 60 points were from the second string.
I think this is how big programs build years of success instead of like AUBURNs one and done seasons. WAR EAGLE.

last weekend there was some good games. Miami was a good one . there is like 50 games change the channel.

[clydepepper]

I sure wouldn't want to be on that committee now...

that both #1 and #2 have lost...

and they almost have to have a 2-loss team ( Auburn) in the top 4...assuming they beat 10-1 Georgia again next week in the SEC championship.


or does UCF have a chance, since they, along with Wisconsin are the only unbeaten teams left?

If Ohio State, another 2-loss team, beats Wisconsin in their championship game....do they get in?

Assuming Clemson wins tonight, they would likely become #1 with Oklahoma #2.

How far do 11-1 Alabama and 10-1 Miami drop?

What a nightmare!

Isn't it a great thing that we now have the playoffs to straighten every thing out? LOL

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[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I sure wouldn't want to be on that committee now...

that both #1 and #2 have lost...

and they almost have to have a 2-loss team ( Auburn) in the top 4...assuming they beat 10-1 Georgia again next week in the SEC championship.


or does UCF have a chance, since they, along with Wisconsin are the only unbeaten teams left?

If Ohio State, another 2-loss team, beats Wisconsin in their championship game....do they get in?

Assuming Clemson wins tonight, they would likely become #1 with Oklahoma #2.

How far do 11-1 Alabama and 10-1 Miami drop?

What a nightmare!

Isn't it a great thing that we now have the playoffs to straighten every thing out? LOL

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A case could be made for bringing that old computer out of the closet. I'm not a big fan of AI running my life, but is a human committee really any better at picking the best four teams to go forward? If we go to 8 teams and another round, is picking the eighth team going to be any easier than picking the fourth? NO!

Whoever makes the selections, man or HAL, there is going to be a lot of criticism and unhappy folks.

I like Wisconsin over UCF in the national finals and I'll cover the spread.

Going back to the original post in this thread, I guess Alabama's schedule leading up to the Auburn game was just too tough. I underestimated the Mercer effect.

[pawpawdiv9]

Bleacher Reports is projecting this:
•1. Clemson (Last week: 2)
•T-1. Oklahoma (3)
•3. Auburn (6)
•4. Wisconsin (5)
•5. Alabama (1)
•6. Georgia (7)
•7. Miami (4)
•8. UCF (9)
•9. Ohio State (8)
•10. Penn State (12)
•11. TCU (11)
•12. USC (13)
•13. Washington (15)
•14. Stanford (14)
•15. Oklahoma State (23)
•16. LSU (18)
•17. Michigan State (22)
•18. Notre Dame (10)
•19. Memphis (17)
•20. Northwestern (19)
•21. Washington State (16)
•22. Virginia Tech (NR)
•23. Mississippi State (20)
•24. Florida Atlantic (NR)
•25. San Diego State (25)


I was expecting Alabama behind UGA, since they were ranked ahead of Bama before losing to Auburn, but assume they are looking how both teams faced Auburn.