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Old 05-22-2012, 03:30 PM
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The sub-heading of the ad reads [I]"We Only Use Board and Court Qualified, Forensic Examination (Not Opinions)."
Like the FDEs provide some sort of objective fact rather than opinion? I don't get it.

Does anyone in the world think they are getting a real Koufax ball for $99 or Mays ball for $45?
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:42 PM
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especially since they had to pay the signer, the fde and overhead costs like storage, advertising, etc. Koufax won't sign for 90, or mays for 45, so how could they sell it for 90 or 45? They might say they got it at a bankruptcy sale, etc. but if it was a real koufax ball, you could still easily sell it for a lot more. And if it was real adn they did a private signing with these guys, all they had to do is take a closeup of koufax signing that exact style of signature, with good documentation as to the date, location, and contract, and you wouldn't need the fde cert.

CSC sells the Ali signed 8 x 10 for 175 dollars, and Islamic pamphlets go for 150 on ebay, so a signed 8 x 10 that is real would go for well over 250-350 easy. At 175 I know a couple of people stockpiling hundreds of ali signed photos that would buy them all , all day long at that price. they aren't doing that, and that tells us all we need to know. I sold a real ali signed 8 x 10 to one of these stockpilers 2 years ago for 135, and it was inscribed, he still wanted it, because he is stockpiling ali signatures, but he doesnt want these uninscribed Ali's at csc, why not? we all know.

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Old 05-22-2012, 08:54 PM
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Hello Tom,

I am writing with concern that a magazine and website I have grown to trust and subscribe to has completely let me down.

How is it possible for your magazine has the audacity to allow CSC Collectibles to run a full page ad. Advertising ridiculous prices and pictures of autographed items that scream forgery. Are you not aware of your past publications in regards to Operation Bullpen? And the fact that you are now supporting these individuals that are poisoning the hobby?

You should know who Chris Morales is and that his certifications are completely bogus.

Please let me know when you plan to pull the ad or expect the backlash to be much worse.

Please check www.net54baseball.com for additional complaints regarding this ad.

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Old 05-22-2012, 08:55 PM
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Not that I expect to get a response, but additional letters to the editor may force their hand.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:55 PM
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Hello Tom,

I am writing with concern that a magazine and website I have grown to trust and subscribe to has completely let me down.

How is it possible for your magazine has the audacity to allow CSC Collectibles to run a full page ad. Advertising ridiculous prices and pictures of autographed items that scream forgery. Are you not aware of your past publications in regards to Operation Bullpen? And the fact that you are now supporting these individuals that are poisoning the hobby?

You should know who Chris Morales is and that his certifications are completely bogus.

Please let me know when you plan to pull the ad or expect the backlash to be much worse.

Please check www.net54baseball.com for additional complaints regarding this ad.

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I emailed both Scott & Tom at SCD this afternoon. No reply yet. Maybe tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:43 PM
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You know we fight these m----- f-----s like crazy but then you see an ad like this and know that they will get some response for Koufax and Mays at $45 and $95. And if collectors buy it at those prices, sometimes I think they get what they deserve.
As I have said many times they are selling for resale,to other lowlifes, but I would assume an ad in that disgusting dust magnet SCD would get some collector response.
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It took forever for SCD to get rid of coaches corner after lots of people complained. they didnt want to.
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:51 PM
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Burczyk was the brainchild of a certain person, and unfortunately, the word forensic fooled tens of thousands of people (not collectors) into believing that crap had to be authentic.

I would love to see Calamusa produce proof that Burczyk examined tens of thousands of Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, etc., autographs back in the early 1990's and yet his name (Burczyk) was never mentioned back then. That was quite a Houdini act.

It's difficult for me to believe that anyone would still sell that crap with a Burczyk COA. But then again, there are still buyers of that crap out there.

Maybe Calamusa can prove to us when and how he acquired the so-called Scoreboard inventory he mentions in his full-page ad.

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i was pretty disapointed in scd for allowing this ad to be published... i can't believe that they are unaware of csc and morales...
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:21 PM
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i was pretty disapointed in scd for allowing this ad to be published... i can't believe that they are unaware of csc and morales...
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:23 PM
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Like the FDEs provide some sort of objective fact rather than opinion? I don't get it.

Does anyone in the world think they are getting a real Koufax ball for $99 or Mays ball for $45?
Yeah, Chris Morales and his $10-$20 Forensic Examination Rate.
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he emailed me and said they did a private signing with ali with his daughter present, when i asked for the day and location, he all of the sudden changed his story and just said the words "scoreboard" changed his story when the first one didn't work.
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OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm asking this seriously:

There is no actual person named Nick Burczyk?? (or whatever his first name is.)

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Old 05-22-2012, 07:16 PM
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OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm asking this seriously:

There is no actual person named Nick Burczyk?? (or whatever his first name is.)

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Ken, I believe a Nicholas Burczyk does (or did) exist, but he never examined any Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, etc., autographs.

I actually own stuff with Nicholas Burczyk stickers. The stickers all read 04/23/92. As a matter of fact, two of the pieces I own have a Burczyk sticker, a YMC sticker and a COA from Chris Morales.

It's amazing that no one heard of Nicholas Burczyk until a few years ago. The poor guy has had his name dragged through the mud. He never examined any sports autographs.
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As far as authenticating autographs he was probably a figment of the imagination of the head of the Florida All Star bogus autograph team.
Right you boys in Fla?
You are going through all the all stars in the authentication business. Hopefully, to drag them all down with you.
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He was probably a figment of the imagination of the head of the Florida All Star bogus autograph team.
Right you boys in Fla?
You are going through all the all stars in the authentication business. Hopefully, to drag them all down with you.
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OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm asking this seriously:

There is no actual person named Nick Burczyk?? (or whatever his first name is.)

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I believe a few papers on handwriting have been attributed to him dating back to the 80s or early 90s. That's it.

There has been speculation that he is dead or in a nursing home somewhere completely unaware his name has been used on these useless certs.
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