Selling collection..looking for dealer..

[PM770]

Thanks for those pictures Ralph. Its beautiful to see all four of the Goudey Ruths sitting together.

[rjackson44]

ralph is a standup person best of luck man ,,

[1952boyntoncollector]

there are like 5 or 6 stages when trying to sell a collection...it like losing a loved one...

1. first you think when try to sell it suddenly there will be ZERO market out there and you don't want to get stuck holding the bag

2. then you just hope to get something, and are happy when you start to get offers in

3. Then suddenly it hits you, maybe you maximize what you can get and realize you don't have to sell immediately

4. Then you start to think about missing the cards and now that you know they have value you start second guessing

5 Then you really not attempt to sell your cards anymore unless you get a unrealistic BIN price you see on ebay

6. Go back to 1..

[Orioles1954]

Like losing a loved one? Vintage baseball cards are cool, but ascribing emotional value to inanimate objects? Best of luck with your sale!

[gawaintheknight]

If you're gonna break it up, please PM or e-mail me a list if you have one. I have some lower grade sets going and I think we've dealt before....would be especially interested in pre-war Reds. Thanks.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

there are like 5 or 6 stages when trying to sell a collection...it like losing a loved one...

1. first you think when try to sell it suddenly there will be ZERO market out there and you don't want to get stuck holding the bag

2. then you just hope to get something, and are happy when you start to get offers in

3. Then suddenly it hits you, maybe you maximize what you can get and realize you don't have to sell immediately

4. Then you start to think about missing the cards and now that you know they have value you start second guessing

5 Then you really not attempt to sell your cards anymore unless you get a unrealistic BIN price you see on ebay

6. Go back to 1..

You forgot 5.1.....See a card that you have been looking for forever.

5.2 Buy it and smile.

[ullmandds]

i don't think I will EVER sell every card I own...most...sure...but I will always keep some that are special to me.

[btcarfagno]

I have to say that seeing those cards "raw" like that is terrific. The 52 Bowman Mantle sitting loose on top of a pile of other 52 Bowmans. 57 Topps Williams sitting on a massive pile of other 57 Topps cards. It's a wonderful image.

Tom C

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

You forgot 5.1.....See a card that you have been looking for forever.

5.2 Buy it and smile.

usually to get to 5.1 you just sold some cards to get out of the market..only to come back in to buy cards you like more with 'card money' so it not real money....

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I have to say that seeing those cards "raw" like that is terrific. The 52 Bowman Mantle sitting loose on top of a pile of other 52 Bowmans. 57 Topps Williams sitting on a massive pile of other 57 Topps cards. It's a wonderful image.



Tom C

+1...I was thinking the same thing. You don't see raw piles and binders like that everyday!

[jburl]

PM Sent

[JasonD08]

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seams..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...

I have no interest losing $$ on a low grade collection. As for Sean a doubt he will follow through. If so take it and run Ralph. Nice collection and a lot of completion! Sean if you buy and flip it for profit you can call me on my stuff. Also I am hoping you followed up with Leon per our last phone conversation to shed light on what happened considering you had Leon call me with threat over suit. Perhaps you can clear my good name and water under the bridge. I can forgive and move on. Make this deal with Ralph then we can talk on my stuff.


Jason

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seams..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...

I have no interest losing $$ on a low grade collection. As for Sean a doubt he will follow through. If so take it and run Ralph. Nice collection and a lot of completion! Sean if you buy and flip it for profit you can call me on my stuff. Also I am hoping you followed up with Leon per our last phone conversation to shed light on what happened considering you had Leon call me with threat over suit. Perhaps you can clear my good name and water under the bridge. I can forgive and move on. Make this deal with Ralph then we can talk on my stuff.


Jason

it not a good start to clear your good name when you state you will pay 10% over sean..and basically implying sean is lowballing so you can make a blanket offer above ...then when he makes an offer now you say its so high you cant beat it....those positions a bit opposite...just saying....

[1952boyntoncollector]

ralph seemed to go from step 1 to step 5 really fast

first says he knows about the offers from dealers and that they have costs etc which will account to their offer price but its fine and wants to sell all at once..

then everyone is saying 24k more than enough and to take it and run

now ralph thinking he can get more and suddenly not interested in selling despite multiple posters stating 24k up front right now is a really really good deal.....so much in fact that they don't think Sean is serious..

Ralph went from selling all to now going through the long hard process of breaking up cards paying AH fees and hoping it adds up better then the offer he received..just breaking even wouldn't be a good deal with all the time and effort involved in breaking things up and logistics, dealing with multiple buyers/issues etc...

he can do what he wants...just interesting to see the steps play out...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

generally not but it's kind of amusing....

Yep.

Buying collections is tough - if you have any sense as a buyer you have to be able to come up with market value; otherwise, you can't make an offer that makes any sense. And as a seller you have to do the same or you have no idea what offers are reasonable. I've found that on Net54, a situation like this is like 'make me an offer' on one card, but with the headaches multiplied exponentially. Too much work for a 'feeler'. So yes, kind of amusing.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seams..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...

I have no interest losing $$ on a low grade collection. As for Sean a doubt he will follow through. If so take it and run Ralph. Nice collection and a lot of completion! Sean if you buy and flip it for profit you can call me on my stuff. Also I am hoping you followed up with Leon per our last phone conversation to shed light on what happened considering you had Leon call me with threat over suit. Perhaps you can clear my good name and water under the bridge. I can forgive and move on. Make this deal with Ralph then we can talk on my stuff.


Jason

That happened 13 months ago. I'm confused - why is this being rehashed?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That happened 13 months ago. I'm confused - why is this being rehashed?

You've never been married?

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You've never been married?

I know... I still get grief for the toilet seat being left up in '87.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You've never been married?

LOL! Funniest post in this thread.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

I know... I still get grief for the toilet seat being left up in '87.

So does Hillary.

I hope Ralf isn't getting upset at our interrupting his deal. Also, kudos to Sean for being willing to do so much math so often.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You've never been married?

+1. I love it! I can picture all the married guys on the board nodding as they read that quote!

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

I know... I still get grief for the toilet seat being left up in '87.

Sorry, Mike...but I think you kept the non-keeper

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

Sorry, Mike...but I think you kept the non-keeper

cheaper to keep her..........

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

cheaper to keep her..........

At least you have cards to keep you happy

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

cheaper to keep her..........

haha. Don't have babies and be a pauper. Then all you have to do is pretend to be miserable any time she contacts you, and she'll be happy.

[Luke]

That's a cool collection. From what I can see, I would take Sean's offer. I can imagine you might go through a lot of additional steps and different avenues, only to net less than $24k. People are often hesitant to take the first offer and regret it later. Good luck with the sale whatever you do.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That happened 13 months ago. I'm confused - why is this being rehashed?

Agree it's really silly when people bring up year old drama that nobody seems to care about, especially when it really only revolves around them and perhaps one other person.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=175664&page=2

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Agree it's really silly when people bring up year old drama that nobody seems to care about, especially when it really only revolves around them and perhaps one other person.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=175664&page=2

Beware the midgets!

Is that politically incorrect to call them? Vertically challenged?

Tom C

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Beware the midgets!

Is that politically incorrect to call them? Vertically challenged?

Tom C

I believe the politically correct term is "little people"....which must be the only politically correct term that sounds more offensive than the original term.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by wolf441

I believe the politically correct term is "little people"....which must be the only politically correct term that sounds more offensive than the original term.

Cue Randy Newman?!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

That's a cool collection. From what I can see, I would take Sean's offer. I can imagine you might go through a lot of additional steps and different avenues, only to net less than $24k. People are often hesitant to take the first offer and regret it later. Good luck with the sale whatever you do.

Yeah I like to make aggressive first offers as well on cards I been looking for...I actually think first offers are usually the best cause they come from people actively looking for that card and try to get it before its snapped up..

when I make an offer and the card is listed for awhile and the seller comes back to me after a long while I usually offer less cause I assume the seller used my offer to try to get people to pay more and couldn't..thus I don't want to be heads and shoulder above everyone elses offer....less value for me at that point....and I believe I overvalued the product in the beginning and adjust for that.

[Jewish-collector]

Why not set up a table & sell it all at the Atlantic City National in 2016 if you can wait that long ?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Yeah I like to make aggressive first offers as well on cards I been looking for...I actually think first offers are usually the best cause they come from people actively looking for that card and try to get it before its snapped up..

when I make an offer and the card is listed for awhile and the seller comes back to me after a long while I usually offer less cause I assume the seller used my offer to try to get people to pay more and couldn't..thus I don't want to be heads and shoulder above everyone elses offer....less value for me at that point....and I believe I overvalued the product in the beginning and adjust for that.

Jake, you should write a book. Seriously - a lot of your ideas are ground-breaking.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Jake, you should write a book. Seriously - a lot of your ideas are ground-breaking.

Scott - Ill let you know, cant wait for your first meaningful post...pins and needles...

[JasonD08]

1952- Are you one of Sean's midget bodyguards?

Sean- Nothing being re-hashed, why did you wait and call me a couple of weeks ago explaining that it was Greg's fault and you parted ways because of issues like mine all the while inquiring about a collection I still had. But you seem to forget you had Leon call me and threaten lawsuit etc etc. Yes maybe bad on Leon, but bad on you as well. Bad on me for sending Greg your cards. If I were you I would take what cash you have and invest in real estate because your card knowledge is lacking as well as your ethics in business and dealing with people. In my experience, if you have limited knowledge in a field you would like to get into to, you must conduct business ethically and as polite and follow through with return calls or emails. Otherwise you get cut from business with that person or franchise. If you have all of the knowledge and short on ethics and couth, then you will soon find yourself black-balled perhaps from a great source of wealth. Just my 2 cents. Take it and spend it however you wish.

Jason

[ullmandds]

For a thread that shouldn't even exist...atleast not in this section...it maybe time to make some popcorn!

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

1952- Are you one of Sean's midget bodyguards?

Sean- Nothing being re-hashed, why did you wait and call me a couple of weeks ago explaining that it was Greg's fault and you parted ways because of issues like mine all the while inquiring about a collection I still had. But you seem to forget you had Leon call me and threaten lawsuit etc etc. Yes maybe bad on Leon, but bad on you as well. Bad on me for sending Greg your cards. If I were you I would take what cash you have and invest in real estate because your card knowledge is lacking as well as your ethics in business and dealing with people. In my experience, if you have limited knowledge in a field you would like to get into to, you must conduct business ethically and as polite and follow through with return calls or emails. Otherwise you get cut from business with that person or franchise. If you have all of the knowledge and short on ethics and cough, then you will soon find yourself black-balled perhaps from a great source of wealth. Just my 2 cents. Take it and spend it however you wish.

Jason

To say you put a spin on events is an understatement. I'm beginning to think you are a compulsive liar.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Scott - Ill let you know, cant wait for your first meaningful post...pins and needles...

Quit calling yourself 'Scott'.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

1952- Are you one of Sean's midget bodyguards?

Jason

I wonder if such people are offended by the term 'mental midget'? I'm sure they would be offended by your linking them to our budding author.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

For a thread that shouldn't even exist...atleast not in this section...it maybe time to make some popcorn!

I like my popcorn unamused.

[jhs5120]

I love it.

Person "B" posts a blanket bid offering to beat Person "A" by 10%

Person "C" posts a blanket bid offering to beat Person "B" by 2%

Person "A" makes his offer public.

Person "B" backs out of his previous offer made.

Person "C" also backs out of his previous offer made.

Argument ensues.


Seriously, can someone pass me the popcorn?!

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Seriously, can someone pass me the popcorn?!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Friggin cornhuskers....



Tom C

Hey now!!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by runscott

jake, you should write a book. Seriously - a lot of your ideas are ground-breaking.

lol

[bobbyw8469]

Sounds like person A is the force to be reckoned with. For the life of me, I can't figure out why the OP hasn't jumped all over the offer, because, to be quite frank, I just don't see $24,000 out there. Granted, it is extremely difficult to base a price based on a few pics. But if the $24,000 was indeed valid, then my hats off to Sean. He put an offer out there, and was met with crickets.

[SMPEP]

It's funny - one guy looks to sell his collection, and look where it leads too!

Maybe we can tell our wives that we have to keep our cards for the safety of society.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I love it.

Person "B" posts a blanket bid offering to beat Person "A" by 10%

Person "C" posts a blanket bid offering to beat Person "B" by 2%

Person "A" makes his offer public.

Person "B" backs out of his previous offer made.

Person "C" also backs out of his previous offer made.

Argument ensues.


Seriously, can someone pass me the popcorn?!

wrong on person C.....person B offered 0..person C offered 2% more than offer C.....if math is right..thats 0 too....


Also seller backed out and decided to take back what he said earlier about selling all at same time......Sean only one that had the opportunity to follow through and did ...everyone else backed out or didn't have the opportunity to back out

[bobbyw8469]

No....I think Jason had a pretty good handle on how it played out.

[JasonD08]

Sean

I am the liar seriously? I would also go out on a limb and say that Sean's offer of $24K is a farce. He would never go through with that offer. His mouth is overloading his arse again. Of course I could be wrong…..in that case the OP can thank me for his follow through because the only way he does it is to try to make a point or save face. Sean you just inquired about my collection of autographed cards, asked for tons of details which I provided, then over the phone admitted the last deal I sold you and you had me ship to Greg Morris was not a bad deal as Mr. Morris had said. Not re-hashing, but you contacted me…..13 months after you tried to sick Leon on me. Wonder why that partnership went south? I have never tried to harm any deals or your integrity until you tried to muscle the wrong person. You tried to bite off more than you could chew and it bit you in the arse. I hope you learn and move on. Perhaps once you eat some humble pie and an apology takes place I would be happy to help you out again. I told you where a couple of deals were…..I cannot help that some dealers will not deal or sell to you because of reputation. Perhaps that is why I can buy the same deals for 1/3 of the price. My piece is said and if you have anything else to "re-hash" as you say you have my number and of course there is private message of which Leon can see I am sure.


Take care,
Jason

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

Sean

I am the liar seriously? I would also go out on a limb and say that Sean's offer of $24K is a farce. He would never go through with that offer. His mouth is overloading his arse again. Of course I could be wrong…..in that case the OP can thank me for his follow through because the only way he does it is to try to make a point or save face. Sean you just inquired about my collection of autographed cards, asked for tons of details which I provided, then over the phone admitted the last deal I sold you and you had me ship to Greg Morris was not a bad deal as Mr. Morris had said. Not re-hashing, but you contacted me…..13 months after you tried to sick Leon on me. Wonder why that partnership went south? I have never tried to harm any deals or your integrity until you tried to muscle the wrong person. You tried to bite off more than you could chew and it bit you in the arse. I hope you learn and move on. Perhaps once you eat some humble pie and an apology takes place I would be happy to help you out again. I told you where a couple of deals were…..I cannot help that some dealers will not deal or sell to you because of reputation. Perhaps that is why I can buy the same deals for 1/3 of the price. My piece is said and if you have anything else to "re-hash" as you say you have my number and of course there is private message of which Leon can see I am sure.


Take care,
Jason

An amicable parting is far from "going south". I echo my earlier sentiment.