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Old 07-30-2010, 05:47 AM
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This is the text of an email a dealer friend of mine received yesterday from JP Cohen of Memory Lane. I don't know what it's about, I could only guess, but it seems at least someone thinks something is in the works.

"Hope all is well. I am writing to you and others, at the request of Marshall Fogel, to organize a meeting on Wednesday evening August 4th at 8:15 pm in room 307-310 (3rd floor) at the National Convention venue.



Marshall emphasized to me that this meeting is important in combating the national consequences that are about to occur causing damage to the reputation and the past financial successes of our industry.



P.S. Email me to confirm your attendance."
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:14 AM
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"...industry"

Now that is the real problem, thinking of it as an industry, when it should be thought of as a hobby.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:35 AM
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I perceive it all to be a hobby, but one that is "serviced" by that "industry". Wish it was just a hobby... but a bunch of folks now make their livings in what used to be just a hobby.
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I hope this meeting isn't about anything I said.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:56 AM
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Barry, of course the meeting is about you. It's always about you. Now will you just behave already?

But truly, that missive from JP sounds serious. All those fertile minds in one room...I bet they can come up with some good ideas on how fix any 'damage to .. past financial successes.' Maybe they can set aside a few minutes during the meeting to address ideas on how to prevent current fraud in the hobby? Perhaps that's asking too much.

More importantly, how come I didn't get an invite to this meeting?
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causing damage to the reputation and the past financial successes of our industry.
This is a joke right??? What could possibly damage our hobby-"industry"? Come on now.....within the past few years we've had the major auction house in the hobby involved in shill bidding and other shenanigans......

we've had a big-time dealer caught in the act of trimming and re-slabbing cards......

we've had what was thought of as the premier T206 website discredited as nothing but a scam.....

we've had a recession and a few bounces......

both "industry" leading grading services have clear conflicts of interests......

reprints can be purchased on eBay by the barrel-full.......

PSA has been rumored to be near bankruptcy.....

the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....

some cards in the hobby might have been accumulated via questionable means....

Cardboard can now be garnished by doctors with no medical degree required....

'52 Mantle rookie cards reside in fake but darn-near real PSA holders....

Roaches Corner still has a website.......etc, etc, etc.


Yet, I still can't find an Old Judge for $25 dollars, our hobby-industry keeps right on chugging; Cho-Cho.....Chag-a Chag-a Chag-a.....Cho-Cho!!!

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In the end, all any of the guys in any meeting in Baltimore care about is how does issue x affect their money. I don't care if Mr. Y is getting indicted or if anyone caught the "gypsies" that ripped off Lionel Carter, all any of them care about is how something affects their finances. They may try to make it appear as if this is an industry-wide issue but in reality what they really are saying is "I may have a problem, can we all get together and figure out how to help me?"
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In the end, all any of the guys in any meeting in Baltimore care about is how does issue x affect their money. I don't care if Mr. Y is getting indicted or if anyone caught the "gypsies" that ripped off Lionel Carter, all any of them care about is how something affects their finances. They may try to make it appear as if this is an industry-wide issue but in reality what they really are saying is "I may have a problem, can we all get together and figure out how to help me?"
From my phone calls this morning this does indeed seem to be a prevailing thought. It seems as though any time someone says "how may I help you?" they really mean "how may I help myself?" .....
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This is a joke right??? What could possibly damage our hobby-"industry"? Come on now.....within the past few years we've had the major auction house in the hobby involved in shill bidding and other shenanigans......

we've had a big-time dealer caught in the act of trimming and re-slabbing cards......

we've had what was thought of as the premier T206 website discredited as nothing but a scam.....

we've had a recession and a few bounces......

both "industry" leading grading services have clear conflicts of interests......

reprints can be purchased on eBay by the barrel-full.......

PSA has been rumored to be near bankruptcy.....

the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....

some cards in the hobby might have been accumulated via questionable means....

Cardboard can now be garnished by doctors with no medical degree required....

'52 Mantle rookie cards reside in fake but darn-near real PSA holders....

Roaches Corner still has a website.......etc, etc, etc.


Yet, I still can't find an Old Judge for $25 dollars, our hobby-industry keeps right on chugging; Cho-Cho.....Chag-a Chag-a Chag-a.....Cho-Cho!!!

Lovely Day...



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the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....
In comparison to every thing else you've listed, I'd say that card's lookin' pretty good now
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The message is really vague and it could mean anything or nothing.
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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I thought it was more like a walking shadow.
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