2019 Hall of Fame voting question

[glchen]

Bagwell?

[shagrotn77]

Pudge, Bagwell and Piazza are all under suspicion.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

Pudge, Bagwell and Piazza are all under suspicion.

Rickey and Nolan have also been mentioned.

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Rickey and Nolan have also been mentioned.

I can honestly say in all my years never heard Ryan’s name mentioned.


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[packs]

Is there really any doubt about Pudge? He'd noticeably shrunk when he came to the Yankees. Don't have any other explanation for it.

[Klrdds]

I never heard Nolan"s name mentioned anywhere before, nor have I heard any credible sources about Rickey either.
Pudge, Bagwell, and Piazza always were mentioned.

[darwinbulldog]

Canseco more or less confirmed Rickey by saying they just inducted one the week he (Rickey) was inducted. Nolan Ryan retired before there was much public conversation about PED use in baseball, but if you go only by the stats, he's more suspicious than anyone else (including even Barry Bonds). We've discussed it here before, and a Google search will reveal that plenty of others have discussed it as well. Not that we have proof of anything untoward in that clubhouse.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Does anyone know where the 2020 HOF selection process for former Negro Leaguers stands? I had heard about this a couple of years ago and was wondering if it is still happening...

[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Does anyone know where the 2020 HOF selection process for former Negro Leaguers stands? I had heard about this a couple of years ago and was wondering if it is still happening...

They are all eligible again to be considere for the veterans committee to vote on. They still need to get to the committee and then get the necessary 75% from the committee, which will be no easy feet given the committees history.

[Scocs]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Does anyone know where the 2020 HOF selection process for former Negro Leaguers stands? I had heard about this a couple of years ago and was wondering if it is still happening...

Yes, I wrote directly to The President of the Baseball Hall of Fame, Jeff Idelson, and he assured me that the Negro Leaguers would be on the Early Baseball ballot in 2020 and again every ten years afterwards.

[packs]

I know the baseball HOF is different from some sports in that there's no minimum number of players who have to be elected at any time, BUT I think a lot of people would agree that even with the Negro League inductions in the past, these are still players who are not represented equally in the Hall. It would be nice if they mandated at least one player would be inducted with the special once a decade vote. Otherwise it seems like a hollow gesture. There's no way the Negro League players who have been inducted represent the only players worthy of induction.

[Scocs]

Truer words have never been spoken...

[Klrdds]

Originally Posted by packs

I know the baseball HOF is different from some sports in that there's no minimum number of players who have to be elected at any time, BUT I think a lot of people would agree that even with the Negro League inductions in the past, these are still players who are not represented equally in the Hall. It would be nice if they mandated at least one player would be inducted with the special once a decade vote. Otherwise it seems like a hollow gesture. There's no way the Negro League players who have been inducted represent the only players worthy of induction.

As a follower of the various HOF Veterans Committees for 40 years an argument could be validly made that there are still many deserving Negro Leaguers not enshrined ( my last count was approximately 25 who could go in ) as well as that many 19th and early 20th century ball players who could also be enshrined. However, I don't think a mandate would help because that was done in the 1970s and then again in 2006 and the HOF doesn't like being told what to do concerning its elections and another mandate I don't think will happen. I also don't hold much hope for many others from those categories / eras because of past voting histories and comments from some HOF members. This has been discussed here previously and the consensus is that something earth-shaking will have to happen to get more players from those 2 categories / eras elected.

[wazoo]

When/Will Bill Dahlen be eligible?

[packs]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

As a follower of the various HOF Veterans Committees for 40 years an argument could be validly made that there are still many deserving Negro Leaguers not enshrined ( my last count was approximately 25 who could go in ) as well as that many 19th and early 20th century ball players who could also be enshrined. However, I don't think a mandate would help because that was done in the 1970s and then again in 2006 and the HOF doesn't like being told what to do concerning its elections and another mandate I don't think will happen. I also don't hold much hope for many others from those categories / eras because of past voting histories and comments from some HOF members. This has been discussed here previously and the consensus is that something earth-shaking will have to happen to get more players from those 2 categories / eras elected.

The mandate of a single elect would be once every 10 years.