Are there any double HOF Rookie Cards in Pre-War Era

[insidethewrapper]

I was wondering , are there any double HOF Rookie Cards in Pre-War Era, like the 1978 Topps Molitor/Trammell card ? Or is this the only one ? Thanks

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think it's the only one. There are a few 4 on 1 Exhibits that are rookies but I think of only one player.

[brianp-beme]

I think the 1941 Double Play card of Enos Slaughter/Johnny Mize is the closest you will get. It is Slaughter's first appearance on a card. Mize had some as early as 1936, but they are either larger cards like an oversize premium or Exhibit, or real esoteric/less desirable one like the Overland candy wrapper. I consider his first 'true' regular issue the Double Play.

Brian

[RCMcKenzie]

This thread reminded me of when I used to trade cards with my brother..."What'd ya take for the Diaz rook?" Maybe the Double Play series has 2 rookies not both in hall though. Here's one with 2 hofers, not rookies... (I also had to look up that Trammell was a Hofer...) (not my cards)

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I think the 1941 Double Play card of Enos Slaughter/Johnny Mize is the closest you will get. It is Slaughter's first appearance on a card. Mize had some as early as 1936, but they are either larger cards like an oversize premium or Exhibit, or real esoteric/less desirable one like the Overland candy wrapper. I consider his first 'true' regular issue the Double Play.

Brian

Sounds right to me. I was guessing about Double Play.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Is Double Play Rizzuto's Rookie? He appears with non-rookie HOF Lefty Gomez.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If managers count, and premiums count, 1936 Goudey Premium DiMaggio and McCarthy? A bit of a stretch, maybe.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There is also a 2001 Topps card of Pujols and Ichiro which someday will be a 2 HOFer RC.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Jerry Koosman was a better pitcher than Jack Morris and share his RC with some guy that I think is in the hall...

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's what old cardboard has as the 'Mize rookie'. I'm not really a rookie card collector, so I'm in the deep end of the pool for this thread...1936 R312 color tint... I thought Parrish and Murphy were sure-fire hofers in the 80's

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

My favorite trivia about the Parrish/Murphy card is that it's the only 4 man RC I can think of where they ALL made an All-Star Game.

[h2oya311]

I'm still working on my earliest HOF imageevent link that will hopefully supplant the oldcardboard website (which hasn't been updated in years). Unfortunately, I'm only up to Brouthers, but I have everything checklisted that I need. Here's a sample from Aaron to Brouthers:

https://imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofearliest

Anyway, ignoring the few 19th century composite cabinets like the 1894 Betz Studio with 7 HOFers, which included "rookie" images of Jennings, Keeler, Kelley, and McGraw; the 1886 Lorillard's Team Cabinets w/ Sam Thompson, etc.; as well as the various early- to mid- 1900s W601 Sporting Life Team Premiums and 1906-07 W601 Team Postcards w/ early images of Cobb, Huggins, Branch Rickey, etc., there simply aren't that many that fit the mold of 2- or 4-player images. I assume also that you aren't interested in multi-player cards like team postcards/cabinets, which could significantly add to the total.

Based on my list, you could conceivably include the following pre-war cards as "rookie" issues:

1931-32 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Luke Appling
1941 Double Play w/ Lou Boudreau (although his '39-46 Exhibit is often credited as his "rookie" issue)
1931-32 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Joe Cronin
1931-32 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Bill Dickey
1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums w/ DiMaggio & McCarthy
1929-30 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Leo Durocher (and some other guys named Ruth and Gehrig)
1937 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Bob Feller
1931-32 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Rick Ferrell (name spelled wrong and not his image...haha!)
1936 All-Star Game Ticket Stub w/ Ford Frick (R), Will Harridge (R), and Kenesaw Landis
1909 Boston Herald Supplement w/ Harry Hooper
1929-30 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Heinie Manush
1938 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Johnny Mize (although 1936 R312 National Chicle is widely regarded as his "rookie")
1929-30 "4-on-1" Exhibits w/ Mel Ott (ignoring his R316 Kashin and 1929 Leader Novelty)
1941 Double Play w/ Pee Wee Reese (although his 1940 Brooklyn Team Issue and 1941 Play Ball are widely regarded as his "rookie" issues)
1941 Double Play w/ Phil Rizzuto
1941 Double Play w/ Enos Slaughter (ignoring his 1941 W754)
1909 Boston Herald Supplement w/ Tris Speaker

While there are some cards and images that slightly pre-date or are concurrent with the Exhibits, I think you could make the argument that each of these are "rookie" issues. I may have missed one or two...hope this helps!

edited to add:
I don't think any of these Exhibits include "rookies" for two HOFers simultaneously other than the Slaughter and Mize (that's a stretch), as mentioned previously. If you want to stretch things even further, the 1936 All-Star Game ticket stub with images of Frick and Harridge could fit the bill.

[Ricky]

Any HOF rookies in the T201 Mecca Doublefolders or T202 Hassan Triplefolders?

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Ricky

Any HOF rookies in the T201 Mecca Doublefolders or T202 Hassan Triplefolders?

shockingly, none.

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If managers count, and premiums count, 1936 Goudey Premium DiMaggio and McCarthy? A bit of a stretch, maybe.

Joe McCarthy first appeared on on T5 cabinet when he was with Toledo. He was a minor leaguer at the time so in some books not a rookie.

[lowpopper]

I believe the Molitor/Trammell card to be a great investment.

...Been saying it since Trammell got in.

It's the only main-issue 2 HOF rookie card.

[bcbgcbrcb]

McCarthy also appeared in the Colgan’s Chips 1909-11 issue, pictured there on Toledo as well. Since the CC set consists of primarily MLB players, I would still consider that McCarthy as a rookie card, definitely meets the definition of a card. Same kind of thinking as some of the Old Judge’s like Kid Nichols, etc., also rookie cards in my eyes as well.

[wondo]

What about Ewing and mascot? Or did Buck Ewing have an earlier card than N172?