New Forensic Autograph Authentication Company

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

I don't want to sound stupid here, or w/e, but why n ot give this group a chance?

a bunch of ex-cops with the founder of Global and a hot chick? With over 100 years experience, just like stated at Global..

Also check out their guarantee.

"In the event the purchaser of a GFA authenticated signature believes that the signature is not genuine with respect to GFA standards and procedures, he/she may submit the signature through the GFA “Guarantee Resubmission” service and GFA will submit the signature to an authorized 3rd party forensic authenticator for additional examination"

Why does it have to be re-subbed to them, so that they can submit it to their own choice of 3rd party forensic examiner? Who exactly will this 3rd party be? Perhaps Global?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by novakjr

a bunch of ex-cops with the founder of Global and a hot chick? With over 100 years experience, just like stated at Global..

Also check out their guarantee.

"In the event the purchaser of a GFA authenticated signature believes that the signature is not genuine with respect to GFA standards and procedures, he/she may submit the signature through the GFA “Guarantee Resubmission” service and GFA will submit the signature to an authorized 3rd party forensic authenticator for additional examination"

Why does it have to be re-subbed to them, so that they can submit it to their own choice of 3rd party forensic examiner? Who exactly will this 3rd party be? Perhaps Global?

Global is not a forensic examiner. Neither is PSA or JSA or Ted Taylor. Neither am I.
We know who is.
I guess we will have to wait and find out who is their authorized 3rd party forensic authenticator.

[RichardSimon]

Their team page lists the founders, the examiners and the investigators(?).
What are the investigators for?
And another point, in the real world, forensic examination implies hours of work to examine one document or signature. It also implies much higher rates when compared to what the TPA's charge if a true forensic examination is offered.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Their team page lists the founders, the examiners and the investigators(?).
What are the investigators for?
And another point, in the real world, forensic examination implies hours of work to examine one document or signature. It also implies much higher rates when compared to what the TPA's charge if a true forensic examination is offered.

The whole notion of a "forensic exam" and "forensic examiners" adding value for modern era collectibles is absurd. If the medium (ball, photostock, etc) is "of the era" and the signing implement is "of the era," what else is there to "forensically" examine? How are they "forensically examining" a Pete Rose signature in blue Sharpie on a Fuji Crystal Archive photo?

After that it is pure signature analysis, and I trust experienced collectors and dealers (and yes, PSA and JSA ) to be more in tune with that than some forensic examiner puffing their credentials with meaningless certificates.

[mschwade]

So from the Services page, am I to assume that to authenticate a Joe Dugan index card it will cost me the same as a Babe Ruth index card?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by mschwade

So from the Services page, am I to assume that to authenticate a Joe Dugan index card it will cost me the same as a Babe Ruth index card?

Based on the services page, assume that is true.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Based on the services page, assume that is true.

The problem I have with that is this company is going to need to authenticate a lot of pieces at that rate to stay afloat.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by mschwade

So from the Services page, am I to assume that to authenticate a Joe Dugan index card it will cost me the same as a Babe Ruth index card?

Why shouldn't it?
Now with a "guarantee" (if it has any teeth) then I can see charging a different price bc the risk assumed is greater financially for an error but with the other companies I can't see why they should charge more for esentially the same service.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Why shouldn't it?
Now with a "guarantee" (if it has any teeth) then I can see charging a different price bc the risk assumed is greater financially for an error but with the other companies I can't see why they should charge more for esentially the same service.

What equates to a thorough examination? How much time and effort will be spent in making sure an item is authentic? If they spend just two hours on a single signed flat, they're hourly wage just went down to $5.