"Young Guns" McDavid rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

There are 581 Crosbys in PSA 10, so obviously they printed a ton more McDavids. PWCC has 8 ending on the same night, it's crazy.

[ndmd99]

About a year ago, there was some discussion on another forum (not sure if it's OK to say which one on here) about black label McDavid YG. At that time, they were POP 9. Sales got into the 15-18k range.

Now it's POP 29 (and recent sales show a sharp decline from the max).

That same discussion mentioned in March 2017 that the BGS pop report showed 311 BGS 10 and 3512 BGS 9.5. Current pop report on shows 461 BGS 10 and 5614 BGS 9.5 (granted these are probably inflated some due to re-grade attempt to bump).

PSA 10 from March 2017 had a POP 686. Now it's 1426.

I'd be wary of buying any high grade McDavid YG at the current price.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ndmd99

About a year ago, there was some discussion on another forum (not sure if it's OK to say which one on here) about black label McDavid YG. At that time, they were POP 9. Sales got into the 15-18k range.

Now it's POP 29 (and recent sales show a sharp decline from the max).

That same discussion mentioned in March 2017 that the BGS pop report showed 311 BGS 10 and 3512 BGS 9.5. Current pop report on shows 461 BGS 10 and 5614 BGS 9.5 (granted these are probably inflated some due to re-grade attempt to bump).

PSA 10 from March 2017 had a POP 686. Now it's 1426.

I'd be wary of buying any high grade McDavid YG at the current price.

OMG that many Becketts lol yeah this is crazy.

[LOTSOS]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There are 581 Crosbys in PSA 10, so obviously they printed a ton more McDavids. PWCC has 8 ending on the same night, it's crazy.

While I'm sure they printed more I'd bet some of it could be attributed to the increase in awareness of 3rd party graders. A whole lot of McDavids went straight from pack to card saver and then to a TPG.

There were auctions at one point over a year ago where there were lots of 10 for sale on PWCC. I personally sold all the YGs and FWAs I had pulled after his Hart. Dumb? Perhaps, but I'm betting on a slump / injury (ala Sid) in the middle of his career where buying opportunities may emerge should I want to buy one for the PC.

[Throttlesteer]

Resurrecting the thread because I found it intriguing. To put things in perspective, there are already significantly more graded Gem Mint McDavid YGs than 1990 OPC Premier Jagr rookies (BGS+PSA). McDavid is an extraordinary talent, but he may never get close to Jagr's accomplishments. $80 vs. $400. Seems like an easy decision for me.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Resurrecting the thread because I found it intriguing. To put things in perspective, there are already significantly more graded Gem Mint McDavid YGs than 1990 OPC Premier Jagr rookies (BGS+PSA). McDavid is an extraordinary talent, but he may never get close to Jagr's accomplishments. $80 vs. $400. Seems like an easy decision for me.

I don't know with a 100% certainty, but I'd bet the Jagr rookie numbers are in the thousands.
I pulled this one straight from a pack and put it in its current holder back when the collecting/junk wax craze was rampant and I know many others did as well.

Not saying there isn't a ton of McDavid rc's available, but, imo, there likely is Jagr's as well, if not more?
Currently PWCC has 5 Jagr 10's up for auction (that I seen) and depending on the prices realized, there will be a whole lot more coming out soon, imo.

But, like you, I also don't get the current prices of current players when so many proven, HOF's cards exist that can be had for less money, but I guess it boils down to who's popular and who isn't?

[Peter_Spaeth]

At one point PWCC had close to 10 McDavid's I think, haven't checked since but I suspect there is a constant large supply.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

At one point PWCC had close to 10 McDavid's I think, haven't checked since but I suspect there is a constant large supply.

There are currently 8 Young Guns with a 3 other cards also classified as Young guns, (like this one below) that I am not familiar with.

This is the most expensive one as it's a Pristine copy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352405806682?nordt=true

Looks like it will finish over a $1000, imo.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/curr...ms_per_page=50

[LOTSOS]

Originally Posted by irv

There are currently 8 Young Guns with a 3 other cards also classified as Young guns, (like this one below) that I am not familiar with.

This is the most expensive one as it's a Pristine copy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352405806682?nordt=true

Looks like it will finish over a $1000, imo.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/curr...ms_per_page=50

Those are UD Young Gun Canvas. Not an exact variant of the YGs such as foil, exclusive and high gloss. They generally command less than a comparable YGs. As an example a standard McDavid Young guns in BGS pristine has sold from (edit not $20k) $10k to about $5k in the past year. Not sure of the exact bottom number or recent sales because I haven't checked recently. But it has dropped substantially.

Also the pops on a Black Label BGS 10 have increased substantially in the past 6-12 months. Someone on another forum has been tracking pop counts and there was a sudden surge. I'll try and find a link tomorrow. Just another reason why I shy away from buying "11"s.

Kevin