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Old 01-25-2018, 06:50 PM
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Based on what I've read here and by a misreported price on a card that I purchased on eBay, I don't have a lot of confidence in PSA's numbers.

I recently made an offer of $600.00 on a 1960 Eddie Mathews PSA 9 offered for sale on eBay at $649.95. My offer was accepted and the transaction went smoothly. (Yes. I know I overpaid.) However, PSA is reporting the purchase price as the original $649.95.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192418387887?rmvSB=true

Does anyone know if Vintage Card Prices numbers are more accurate?
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Thanks for letting me know about Best Offers Accepted not being correctly logged by PSA. I will see that they get that information. Usually watchcount shows the proper Best Offer value, but eBay may not be accurately providing it to PSA (or VCP for that matter).

Just to clarify......
I didn't submit a "Best Offer" because that wasn't an option. I simply sent the seller a message via eBay offering him $600.00. He then sent me an "offer" (to purchase for $600.00). If I remember correctly, the offer expired in 24 or 48 hours.
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:00 AM
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Ive searched this database and found that something like 70% of my purchases on relatively scarce items dont show up (things like bazooka boxes where there are only 7-8 total listed over the past 5 years, and mine from the past few months are not)
Can you see the certification number and barcode in your first image? Do you put PSA in your title?
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Default Here is an interesting one.

A clemente rookie graded psa 6.5 sold by Pietra cert #25244961 is CURRENTLY listed for 7499.00. The PSA database shows the same cert sold by the same seller on August 1 2017 for 7999.00 - a HUGE jump over Previous sales.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:26 PM
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Can you see the certification number and barcode in your first image? Do you put PSA in your title?
I don't put PSA in the search bar. Two specific examples are 1960 Morrrell Meats Koufax (PSA 6, purchased mid-2016 off eBay) and 1961 Morrell Meats Koufax (PSA 6, purchased mid-2016 off eBay). One was an auction, one was a best offer accepted; neither show up...
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:45 PM
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Oh, that's because they only have 1 year's worth of eBay sales at this time. They have some auctionhouse data that goes back much further. Maybe they can contract with worthpoint to get access to prior sales.
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Based on what I've read here and by a misreported price on a card that I purchased on eBay, I don't have a lot of confidence in PSA's numbers.

I recently made an offer of $600.00 on a 1960 Eddie Mathews PSA 9 offered for sale on eBay at $649.95. My offer was accepted and the transaction went smoothly. (Yes. I know I overpaid.) However, PSA is reporting the purchase price as the original $649.95.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192418387887?rmvSB=true

Does anyone know if Vintage Card Prices numbers are more accurate?
I've found it sometimes takes awhile but the prices from PSA and VCP tend to synch over time. I've seen some not on one or the other so its not a matter of one of them gets the info quicker. In the case of your card, I'm sure how your transaction went with the private message/direct offer had to do with it. VCP doesn't have your purchase recorded yet. See the pics.
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Since I saw this thread and started referring to the site, it's been a pretty awesome research vehicle to get a decent idea of what something should go for. Problem is, almost everything I look up cannot be found at close to the recent prices realized (and shown) via ebay (not talking about 'best offer' listings, but regular BIN's). Everything is much more expensive, unfortunately. Guess I'm going to have to wait the sellers out until their prices come down. Plus, weirdly enough, a bunch of cards I bought off of ebay from a bunch of different years and a bunch of different sellers (all BIN's) aren't shown at all. I have checked and double checked and they are nowhere to be found on the site, even though I bought some of them one or two years ago. Very, very strange, so I imagine it is clearly not a comprehensive assessment of prices realized. Has anyone else found their purchases over the last couple of years to be missing from the listings there??

(I haven't gone back and re-read this entire thread, so my apologies if this has been covered already.)
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:29 AM
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It has been covered. The eBay listings only go back about 15 months; that must be when they started scraping the data. The auctionhouse listings go back to the 2005 timeframe, depending on the AH.
I bought a nice card for $199 last night on eBay when sales according to the website ranged from $240-400 on eBay.
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