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Old 10-12-2017, 03:33 PM
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That ignores Judge's entire season though. He had a historic September where he hit 15 homers in a month, but you're not saying that Judge can be expected to hit 90 home runs next season.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:38 PM
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I too am shocked Cleveland lost the series. They finished the season 32-4, probably the best finish ever, and after their amazing comeback to win game two, they played the last three games as the walking dead.

And the Yankees did this with a minimal contribution from Judge. If he gets hot...maybe, just maybe, this will be the Yankees year. It could get interesting.

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Old 10-12-2017, 04:36 PM
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The only thing that takes the sting away from the Red Sox getting blown out is watching the Yankees blow a huge lead and lose in extra innings. I'm really excited for a Cleveland/Houston series, though. Should make for some great baseball.


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Old 10-12-2017, 05:11 PM
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You forgot the four walks. In 24 atbats he put the ball in play four times.
and he was instrumental in winning 2 games of a best of 5 series.
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:14 PM
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Exactly. Judge hits 52 homers as a rookie, and emerges from a slump to be Player Of The Month in September— then has a great WC game, and a season saving catch in the DS... and yet some lie in wait for his next rough patch or bad series, eager to slither out and trash him. Then they will vanish when he gets hot again, slither out again when he has a bad series, rinse, repeat. It’s a puerile cycle. The kid had a historic season and there’s no changing that. And a rebuilding team just dismissed the top seed from two games down, to reach the CS. Judge and the team and the fans are very happy with this.
agree.... i keep saying a couple of good games wipe out many bad games...all the Judge haters kept pointing out the Yankees didnt win the division so his hot streak did nothing....yet Indians go bye bye..and Yankees move on.. I guess Kris Bryant is terrible now..

but Judge did win or at least was instrumental in 2 games as a position player. Yes hes not an all time best hitter, but i find it hard to knock the guy this year for anything...

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Old 10-12-2017, 06:07 PM
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How can you compare him to Rob Deer? Rob Deer is a career 220 hitter who couldn't take a walk and didn't score runs. Judge led the league in runs and walks.

I posted Bryant's batting line already. Harper is hitting 133 himself in his series. But there is something wrong with only Judge. I don't buy that.


A- using the playoffs as a gauge of a player's ability is silly, it's too small of a sample size and means absolutely nothing

B- Deer posted a career walk rate of 12.7% and a K rate of 31.2% , at present Judge ,after only one and 1/6th of a season, has a BB% of 17.6 and a K% of 32.3% Deer also has his entire career to compare with scouting reports and age decline built in to these numbers.

C- runs are a team stat and not indicative of individual performance (you have no control over how well the people hit behind you)

D- Bryant has a history of being good in MLB and doesn't have the same batted ball profile of Judge, he also plays good defense at a premium position and has averaged 7 fWAR for 3 straight seasons and only strikes out 23.7% of the time using the playoffs to compare them is silly ,once again


E- league avg for the AL was 18.6% soft contact 49.2% med. contact and 32.2% hard contact with a 21.3 K% and a batting avg on balls in play of .300 Judge posted a 11.2 soft contact, 43.5 med contact and 45.3 hard contact but with 30.7 K% and a BABIP of .357 (which is high for him) Using his nearly 800 PA's worth of data , he looks like a guy who swings hard but got lucky on balls in play, if that regresses towards the mean of .300, and hi K% increases or BB% decreases (or all of the above) he could become a guy who struggles to make contact enough to be viable.

F- AL hitters avg swinging at pitches out of the zone (O-Swing%) was 30% and they made contact on those pitches 62.9% of the time, in the zone (Z-swing%) AL avg was 66.8% and they made contact 85.5% of the time. Judge's O-swing% was 27.4$ with 44% contact, and his Z-swing% was 62.4% with 82.2% contact. like I said, contact + K's could be an issue for him if he doesn't make the proper adjustments,
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:09 PM
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I too am shocked Cleveland lost the series. They finished the season 32-4, probably the best finish ever, and after their amazing comeback to win game two, they played the last three games as the walking dead.

And the Yankees did this with a minimal contribution from Judge. If he gets hot...maybe, just maybe, this will be the Yankees year. It could get interesting.
it's almost like the wildcard playoff format dilutes the postseason into a random bunch of nonsense! (which it does)
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:51 PM
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Sickening. I won't be watching another playoff game this year. Can't stomach it.
I was pretty upset this morning. Sure was hoping I'd wake to much better news but learned quick they came up short.

Now that EE and the Indians are out, I don't care so much and will likely concentrate on watching hockey from here on out instead.

No favorite team now, but I guess, at this point, I'll root for the Astros.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:11 PM
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scherzer getting smoked..game 5 relief

both starting pitchers tonight wont be as good as kershaw

it todays playoffs..if your starter can get 6.1 innings with 4 earned...and bullpen closes the rest of the way you going to win every 5 or 7 game series..

Washington's Madson and Doolittle pitched the last 2.2 innings with zero runs...bet they wish they had a kershaw average start of 6.1 innings and 4 earned...

Also for the Yankees..If Judge contributes to basically win 2 games for the yankees in the next round..they will win the series...he can go 0-40 with 30 ks...it doesnt matter if he basically wins 2 games for them....

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That ignores Judge's entire season though. He had a historic September where he hit 15 homers in a month, but you're not saying that Judge can be expected to hit 90 home runs next season.

Allow me to be the first to say, 'Aaron Judge will NOT hit 90 home runs next season!'
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