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Old 09-20-2017, 12:09 AM
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I have been unofficially advised that PSA is rejecting most signed vintage cards these days. I heard it was due to the higher volume of these on the market they are concluding many are fake. Unfortunately those of us that have held onto cards for many years and want to sell now and feel the need to slab them are getting many authentic cards rejected.
I have seen that happen to me with a number of cards in the past year that I knew were good and I confirmed it with Jim Stinson and others. Also on some rarer HOFers. Has anyone else had this experience?
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:40 AM
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I've had vintage, but players who lived well, and were great TTM well into the 2000s, fail. Also, one who is currently alive failed recently.

Any other LOAs are met with "will it pass PSA" from prospective buyers. Notice they never ask "is it real" mainly because it doesn't matter, long as psa says it is.


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Old 09-20-2017, 09:21 AM
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I have been unofficially advised that PSA is rejecting most signed vintage cards these days. I heard it was due to the higher volume of these on the market they are concluding many are fake. Unfortunately those of us that have held onto cards for many years and want to sell now and feel the need to slab them are getting many authentic cards rejected.
I have seen that happen to me with a number of cards in the past year that I knew were good and I confirmed it with Jim Stinson and others. Also on some rarer HOFers. Has anyone else had this experience?
If simply a trend then fine, if its a conscience decision, this is ridiculous stab in the back by PSA/DNA to there customers. Their role is to know the difference, if they can't then they shouldn't be in business. If "due to the higher volume of these on the market" they are concluding many are fake, then they are not a neutral, un-biased opinion any more.
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:24 AM
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Any other LOAs are met with "will it pass PSA" from prospective buyers. Notice they never ask "is it real" mainly because it doesn't matter, long as psa says it is.
Because PSA passing it (like it or not) secures the value. "Any other LOA" doesn't do that.
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I have been unofficially advised that PSA is rejecting most signed vintage cards these days. I heard it was due to the higher volume of these on the market they are concluding many are fake. Unfortunately those of us that have held onto cards for many years and want to sell now and feel the need to slab them are getting many authentic cards rejected.
I have seen that happen to me with a number of cards in the past year that I knew were good and I confirmed it with Jim Stinson and others. Also on some rarer HOFers. Has anyone else had this experience?
Had a similar experience... submitted a card for a friend (had been in his father's collection for well over 30 years) and it came back authct?

Several people in the hobby whom I trust and respect deemed it authentic
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:10 PM
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Maybe they aren't authentic.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:36 PM
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Maybe they aren't authentic.
I think that's the issue...in some instances, these are KNOWN real autographs that are being rejected. Like someone else stated, if PSA can't tell the difference, maybe they need to stop the autograph division. And yes, I believe forgeries are rampant.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:33 PM
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What does known to be real mean? I don't understand the criticism here. PSA rejected autographs they feel aren't authentic. That's their opinion. If you're saying that they shouldn't authenticate autographs unless they're able to make a determination without fail, wouldn't you prefer they err on the side of caution and reject an autograph they aren't comfortable with?

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Old 09-20-2017, 02:07 PM
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Hence why the say "questionable"

There was a slew of cards ending the other night, a few which I thought were questionable, so I didn't bid. I try to err on the side if caution as well. If my first inkling is a NO, I have to stop myself from asking "could it possibly be rushed, an off day, etc"

As far as modern guys who sign TTM there is no reason to fail them solely because it's an expensive, vintage card
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I think the strangest PSA result I've ever seen was a Ted Williams autographed Gene Budig baseball from the late 90s.

The general consensus I've been told is that Williams stopped signing balls in 1993 after his stroke. I suspect any Budig baseball will draw additional suspicion right off of the bat by a TPA.

This ball had the saddest Ted Williams autograph I've ever seen. It was extremely sloppy & deformed and looked like it came from Williams shortly before his death. I have no doubt it was real.

Had a full LOA. I'm guessing they assume nobody would forge such a sad looking autograph. I just don't know how you'd authenticate an item like that.
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