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Old 10-01-2017, 06:59 PM
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Default New guy here...1952 Mantle...is it legit?

I have what i believe may be a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle 311B card.... A little history...I picked up this card at a old garage sale in a very small town. The guy running the garage sale had many old items such as authentic WWII officer uniforms, watches, tools, etc....I found this card in with the watches and asked him what he wanted for it....his reply was...hmm Mickey Mantle, i think he was pretty good right...idk....like $25? This guy had no other cards at all...just this one and def did not know what he may have had.

Here is the link to the pics of the card.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/148960835@N08/?

Initially i was very skeptical whether this is the real deal or not...but it passes every single specific attribute of being a real card....
The following is from: http://bbcemporium.com/1952-topps-mi...terfeit-guide/

-There is a missing blue pixel
-There is only a partial black border around the Yankee logo
-The top border overlaps the two side borders
-The border around Mantle’s name is not as smooth an even as the Type I
card
-The stitches on the baseball are pointed to the right
-The “t” in Right and the “s” in DiMaggio’s are nearly perfectly aligned.

It passes all of these...which i've looked through hundreds of counterfeits and they always fail on one of the above.

I really need some expert opinion here....No disrespect but if you were unaware of the above list please don't comment. I only want expert opinions as I need to make a decision on whether to send this to PSA or not. Please give me specifics on why you came to your decision.

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Old 10-01-2017, 07:06 PM
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Do you own any other 1952 Topps? Can you compare the card stock to them? Buy some commons for $10 each and feel the front, back, sides, and smell them. Then see if the Mantle sets off any flags for you.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:08 PM
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If you purchased that card for only $25 bucks and it passed your inspection, based on what you mentioned, I see no reason why you wouldn't send it in to get graded.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:15 PM
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If you purchased that card for only $25 bucks and it passed your inspection, based on what you mentioned, I see no reason why you wouldn't send it in to get graded.
Yeah....however....does PSA charge $1200 whether it's legit or not?
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:17 PM
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Do you own any other 1952 Topps? Can you compare the card stock to them? Buy some commons for $10 each and feel the front, back, sides, and smell them. Then see if the Mantle sets off any flags for you.
I do not own any other 52 cards....from your opinion is that the only thing that could be off with it?
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:19 PM
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Yeah....however....does PSA charge $1200 whether it's legit or not?
The prices likely went up as I remember it being $700.00 for cards valued over $10K.

Swarmee has a great idea. It would be worth it to buy one/some cheaply from E-Bay or someone on here (if available?) then compare.

Good luck whatever you do.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:27 PM
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No red flags when looking at it here, but I'm far from an expert and would need to see it in hand to judge. How does it smell? Old?
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:29 PM
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The prices likely went up as I remember it being $700.00 for cards valued over $10K.

Swarmee has a great idea. It would be worth it to buy one/some cheaply from E-Bay or someone on here (if available?) then compare.

Good luck whatever you do.
Not a bad idea....however does anyone know if PSA charges if it's found to be a counterfeit? I mean that's pretty sucky if they do....$1200 for a $5 fake? I am perfectly fine paying that much if it is indeed legit. What if i send it in listing it as a counterfeit? Will they only charge the minimum then?
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No red flags when looking at it here, but I'm far from an expert and would need to see it in hand to judge. How does it smell? Old?
Yes it does smell old....
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:31 PM
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No red flags when looking at it here, but I'm far from an expert and would need to see it in hand to judge. How does it smell? Old?
hey Chris....thanks for the feedback...what do you think it would grade out as? I was thinking probably 4-5?
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