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Old 10-01-2017, 07:33 PM
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I have both versions of the Mantle. One was graded when I bought it, the other not. Before finalizing the purchase of the ungraded card I sent it to Levi Bleam at 707 Spotscards. I would actually trust his opinion over any grader at any service when it comes to 52 cards in general and Mantle specifically. Plus, despite his reputation for high prices, he is completely trustworthy and honest. He did not charge me for his review ( it turned out to be good), but I have been a long time customer. You can contact him through his 707 web site. Not sure if he would do a review for someone he did not have experience with.

Don"t know where you live but he does attend some shows. His schedule may be on his web site
I live in michigan and THANKS for that info. Obviously i would need his opinion in person as I just wouldn't trust any personal entity to just ship it to.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:34 PM
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That makes sense....i have a full time job and better things to do than try and replicate baseball cards So...i've heard different things...Will PSA charge the same amount whether it's real or fake?
To be 100% sure what they do just go to the PSA website and get their contact info and contact them.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:35 PM
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To be 100% sure what they do just go to the PSA website and get their contact info and contact them.
Yeah i plan on doing that tomorrow. Just figured somebody on here would probably be able to give me an accurate answer tonight.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:35 PM
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Swarmee, (John) is likely right as he has a ton of experience.

This may help also but like Ben just stated, give them a call.
https://www.psacard.com/fees/preview
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:40 PM
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Swarmee, (John) is likely right as he has a ton of experience.

This may help also but like Ben just stated, give them a call.
https://www.psacard.com/fees/preview
Thanks for the heads up and yeah....i REALLY hope he is right haha.

It would def rank as my #1 card story and possibly any other story of my life...other than my son being born.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:13 PM
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He means I'm probably right about PSA taking $800 no matter what. ;-)
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:09 PM
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I believe the card is fake. It overall doesn't look " right " to me. Also, the bat has the white area above his hands- seen on sophisticated fakes.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:26 PM
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I believe the card is fake. It overall doesn't look " right " to me. Also, the bat has the white area above his hands- seen on sophisticated fakes.
fakes always have decent centering too
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:42 PM
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Nothing is really screaming at me that this is a fake other than the near perfect centering and the yellow around the Yankees logo looks a bit brighter compared to a known legit copy (this could be from the photo, though). Another odd factor is the unnatural perfectly rounded bottom corners. I own cards with rounded corners, so it's not uncommon, but the color and wear on the white borders doesn't really match the wear of the corners, as if the card may have been artificially aged. Lack of creasing is also strange. I'm 50/50 on it.

Thanks for providing such good pictures to study, and please, even if the card is determined to be a fake, come back here to let us all know the result. That would be a nice score if it turns out to be real, so good luck!

BTW, I will mention that with the rounded corners, the surface scuffing, and the stain in the upper right corner area, you would be likely to get a 2 or maybe a 3 from PSA, although most collectors would pay a big premium for the centering, so it's still a $20K card, give or take, if it's real.

Also, if you submit to PSA you can choose to have it graded with no qualifiers, as it would likely get an ST qualifier for the stain. Keep in mind this would also knock the grade down a grade or two. For example, if you go with qualifiers, the card may grade as a 3 ST. If you request no qualifiers, PSA may give it a straight 2 or even a 1.

Most collectors would prefer a card without a qualifier, and if you do more research with the search function you can probably find some prior discussions on qualifiers to help with your decision.

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Old 10-02-2017, 08:20 AM
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Nothing is really screaming at me that this is a fake other than the near perfect centering and the yellow around the Yankees logo looks a bit brighter compared to a known legit copy (this could be from the photo, though). .
I agree with the front centering screaming fake.....the back centering is off l/r though....that is not as typical with the fakes.
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