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Old 10-12-2017, 05:59 PM
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Coins have cooled in last few years, trend looks to continue.
First $100,000 coin sold circa 1974, now there are many, many that have recently passed that mark. First 8-figure coins sold in 2012. I wouldn't worry too much about coin collectors in the long term. Their market, like ours, will have its ups and downs, but both are here to stay.

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Old 10-12-2017, 07:26 PM
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I think it depends on what you collect? I was going to post about the recent up tic I have noticed lately with 52 Topps cards. I have seen some pretty high prices lately but maybe those prices were higher at some point? I'll post some links later as I have to get ready for work.
These are some of the 52's I was talking about. Maybe these aren't as high as they once were, like in 2008, but from what I have noticed/tried to pay attention too, they seem like increases or very good realized prices to me?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-J...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-R...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-R...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-B...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-A...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-H...19.m1438.l2649

Granted, these are some very nice cards with nice grades, but I believe some of these are new highs, or sold higher than current VCP prices?
Please don't flame me if I am wrong, these are just my observations when I seen what these cards went for recently.

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:15 PM
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It always seems like the only things going up in price are the exact items on my want list!
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:42 PM
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These are some of the 52's I was talking about. Maybe these aren't as high as they once were, like in 2008, but from what I have noticed/tried to pay attention too, they seem like increases or very good realized prices to me?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-J...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-R...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-R...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-B...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-A...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-S...19.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-H...19.m1438.l2649

Granted, these are some very nice cards with nice grades, but I believe some of these are new highs, or sold higher than current VCP prices?
Please don't flame me if I am wrong, these are just my observations when I seen what these cards went for recently.
Worth noting the dealers you listed are mega dealers and get insane prices for their cards.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:53 PM
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I feel that way too...

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It always seems like the only things going up in price are the exact items on my want list!
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:38 AM
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Worth noting the dealers you listed are mega dealers and get insane prices for their cards.

Unless they handle my 1952 topps consignments, then they bring record lows!
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:15 AM
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Raw lots of 50s-60s cards in all grades have steadily been increasing over the past year.

Here is an example, this midgrade 1960 Topps lot of 340 cards with no major stars or high #s sold for almost $1.30/card. A year ago, a lot such as this the average price per card would have been 60-75 cents/card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Topps-N...p2047675.l2557


IMO, fewer sellers are selling on ebay and the supply has lessened. However, the demand has remained somewhat constant causing the prices of lots such as this to nearly double over the past year.


Almost 10 years ago I finished a complete 72 Topps PSA graded set...avg grade was 8.20. I got down to needing a few cards to finish. One was the notoriously tough 708 card and I wanted an 8. I paid almost $200 for a centered 8 then..... now you bid and win one for around $40. Too bad I didn't wait. IMO, many of these higher priced, previously low pop commons have come down in price due "prospectors" rooting these cards out in their raw state from shows, shops, etc and sending them in for grading. It is as simple as the increase of supply driving down the price in a case like this.

Based on cases like these with the low pops, I think it is unfair to argue that the collecting base is shrinking (dramatically if you read some assessments in this thread), it is just not growing as quick as it once did. These examples of price fluctuations are based on the changes in SUPPLY vs. demand.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:35 AM
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It also seems like everybody is getting cards graded these days to try to cash in on PSA 9/10. As the supply of these cards increases, the price will drop. There are only so many buyers out there.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:37 AM
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This is a very interesting thread. When I first got back into cards in 2012 I was surprised at the amount of interest and the huge increase in prices. I figured the uptick was fueled by guys like me in their late 30s who collected in the heyday of the late 80s-early 90s now with established careers and some discretionary income. Sort of reliving their childhood except this time with their own money. This concerned me because I did not know who was coming behind me to prop up the hobby and the prices.

Then I spent a few Saturdays at the local card shop. They were absolutely slammed with kids and their dads buying packs and chasing inserts and autos. They would count off every star they came across. Some of the kids were turning the cards they found right around and consigning them with the dealer on eBay (with the parents permission of course). It was quite a scene. Was there any mention of Mantle, Mays or Griffey? No. But they were just as excited to rip those packs as I was at 10 years old.

I think there are collectors coming behind us but it won't have the same gravity it had. They are not likely to value the card as a piece of history, art, or memorabilia. But they will remember the thrill of unearthing that card. I do believe that things will roll back some and in cases where there is not true scarcity quite a bit. But the big time HOFers and items that are truly rare will still have a market.

In the meantime, I'll hedge my card investments with solid stock and real estate investments just to make sure
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:48 AM
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Set building is not in vogue now everyone is buying rookies and superstar cards. This has made it a good time,in my opinion to build sets. Many of the low pop cards are selling for fractions of what they sold for when everyone was set building. It still has some pull on the hotly contested registry sets but on sets where there is less current competition prices are way down. 10s still often bring some head shaking numbers but tougher 8-9 from the 60s and 70s seem to be soft compared to their peak prices.
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