1980-present variations

[zogar]

The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by zogar

The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

Interesting. I never noticed those. Are they unnumbered? From what I understand, all of the Ryans are unnumbered in factory sets. Actually, that could just be the King of Kings card.

Arthur

[zogar]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Interesting. I never noticed those. Are they unnumbered? From what I understand, all of the Ryans are unnumbered in factory sets. Actually, that could just be the King of Kings card.

Arthur

I think it is just the King of Kings card that is unnumbered, the variations I posted have numbers on the back. I don't remember exactly why I came to the belief that the star placement variation came from factory sets so that could be wrong.

Thank you and butchie_t for your lists of 1990 Donruss variations. It was the first set that got me into errors as a kid. My father took me to a card show where dealers were asking around $20 for the Harold Baines line through star variation and since rookie and star player cards were a couple of dollars at most my kid brain was like "Woah! I want the errors!".

I remember going to a local card store a month or so later and they had 1990 Donruss boxes that they called "4th printing" which they said only contained the Juan Gonzalez error. I have heard some people claim there were somewhere around 12 printings or more in total but no idea if that is correct.

I've always hoped there would end up being a couple that were truly rare/hard to find but I guess that is probably a long shot at this point.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by zogar

I think it is just the King of Kings card that is unnumbered, the variations I posted have numbers on the back. I don't remember exactly why I came to the belief that the star placement variation came from factory sets so that could be wrong.

Thank you and butchie_t for your lists of 1990 Donruss variations. It was the first set that got me into errors as a kid. My father took me to a card show where dealers were asking around $20 for the Harold Baines line through star variation and since rookie and star player cards were a couple of dollars at most my kid brain was like "Woah! I want the errors!".

I remember going to a local card store a month or so later and they had 1990 Donruss boxes that they called "4th printing" which they said only contained the Juan Gonzalez error. I have heard some people claim there were somewhere around 12 printings or more in total but no idea if that is correct.

I've always hoped there would end up being a couple that were truly rare/hard to find but I guess that is probably a long shot at this point.

I keep track of the case codes whenever I rip a case and then enter everything into a spreadsheet to see the chronology of the E&Vs. I've got nine different dates covered so far (all "error cases") and three more to rip and sort. Each of the nine dates I've sorted have had a unique checklist of what is and what isn't available, even if it's just a few cards that change status from the previous date.

I don't know what the first distribution date is and I'm not sure how anyone else would know either but someone would have to do what I'm doing except on a much larger scale in order to number "printings." The Gonzalez should not be considered difficult if you have an error box. But like all the '90 Donruss cards from the early printings, finding a gem mint copy is basically the plo of the next Indiana Jones movie.

Out of all the cases I've ripped, I've only pulled mint copies of the Juan RevNeg.

Arthur

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

I keep track of the case codes whenever I rip a case and then enter everything into a spreadsheet to see the chronology of the E&Vs. I've got nine different dates covered so far (all "error cases") and three more to rip and sort. Each of the nine dates I've sorted have had a unique checklist of what is and what isn't available, even if it's just a few cards that change status from the previous date.

I don't know what the first distribution date is and I'm not sure how anyone else would know either but someone would have to do what I'm doing except on a much larger scale in order to number "printings." The Gonzalez should not be considered difficult if you have an error box. But like all the '90 Donruss cards from the early printings, finding a gem mint copy is basically the plo of the next Indiana Jones movie.

Out of all the cases I've ripped, I've only pulled mint copies of the Juan RevNeg.

Arthur

There is a case on eBay now, M9335C. I am foggy on my number but I believe it was lower than this one.

B. T.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by butchie_t

There is a case on eBay now, M9335C. I am foggy on my number but I believe it was lower than this one.

B. T.

I've opened a case earlier than the one on eBay and there's no real advantage to paying the price for that case.

Arthur

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

I've opened a case earlier than the one on eBay and there's no real advantage to paying the price for that case.

Arthur

No chance of that happening on my end. I just happened to see it during my recent searches.

Cheers,

Butch

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by zogar

The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

The card on the right is definitely the factory set version. You can see the position placement is different and it has those tell-tale semi "rounded" corners that Donruss factory set cards have.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by zogar

The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

I don't collect those cards, but there's a drastic difference in the background 'splatter dot' patterns as well, with completely different layouts on each of the two cards shown. Unless those types of differences are found throughout the cards in the set, then it becomes a quick and easy telltale sign to distinguish between the different versions.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Does anyone have the image someone created that shows all of the possible backs for '89 Donruss? I know it's combinations of *Denotes*, spaces in the bio, and glow under blue light effect but I have no idea what I did with that image. If anyone as it I'd really appreciate it if you could post it here. Thanks!

Arthur

[butchie_t]

Best to checkout Trading Card DataBase. They seem to have a detailed documentation of all things Donruss 90's variations. Not to mention that would be a separate thread than this one. It needs a thread all of its own.

[jacksoncoupage]

Just found out this existed. I can't imagine there are too many of them out there.


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[Pat R]

I don't know if this is actually a variation or just a one-off but I found this Jack Morris interesting while going through my 91 Topps.

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[Pat R]

This one is recurring. Not a normal fisheye type defect these two Roger Craig cards have what looks like a perfect O

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