2017 Topps Certified Autograph Issues (non signed errors?)

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

Might be worth a shot at contacting Topps. Who know, maybe they'll ask you to send them back and give you the signed versions.

Very doubtful, Topps has been screwed over countless times by guys getting an ugly auto. You can just wipe an auto off a card. So people would just wipe the ugly auto off and try to get Topps to give them a nicer one. Unless Topps changed their policy they do not replace cards missing an autograph even if pack pulled.

[yanksfan09]

The guy I bought them from said they all came out of one box and were in packs. I didn't pull them myself so only know what he told me. He said he opened 3 cases and one box had about 10 of them. Different players.

[packs]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Very doubtful, Topps has been screwed over countless times by guys getting an ugly auto. You can just wipe an auto off a card. So people would just wipe the ugly auto off and try to get Topps to give them a nicer one. Unless Topps changed their policy they do not replace cards missing an autograph even if pack pulled.

I can't speak to that but I have had some pretty easy interactions with Topps in the past when I've bought boxes that were supposed to contain an auto but didn't. They always sent me an autograph so long as I sent them the purchase coupon from the box.

Never hurts to ask.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

I can't speak to that but I have had some pretty easy interactions with Topps in the past when I've bought boxes that were supposed to contain an auto but didn't. They always sent me an autograph so long as I sent them the purchase coupon from the box.

Never hurts to ask.

I know I would not feel right asking in this situation. Now if I was the person who bought the box and personally pulled them I would call Topps immediately. I can't imagine the person who pack pulled them did not contact Topps.

As an error collector I think the are super cool and if pack pulled extremely rare. Usually that does not make them worth much but they are high on the cool factor.

[yanksfan09]

Yea, I had no idea as to potential value. I paid 49.99 a piece for all 3. I thought they were really cool!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Yea, I had no idea as to potential value. I paid 49.99 a piece for all 3. I thought they were really cool!

Do the cards have the right backs for being the auto cards?

I ask because back is 2000 I got a Wade Boggs card that was supposed to have a hat, bat , and jersey inserts according to the card front but did not have any of the 3 inserts. I called Fleer and after looking at the back of the card, the back was for the normal card. Because of that Fleer would not do nothing.

[yanksfan09]

I tried putting up some better pics, took out of cardsavers. The one pic with 2 judges together aren't mine, those are the regular cards, image taken from ebay to compare differences.

You can see on the 3 "auto" cards the lightened area where the signature would be, how all the topps certified autograph cards are. They fade the color out a bit where signature should be.

I also just noticed on the back of all three in small black print it says " The signing of all topps autograph cards is witnessed by a topps representative to guarantee authenticity."

[JustinD]

I don't think signed versions of those cards exist. Those photos are the Judge SPs for that set and I have yet to see a signed version posted. I think the 1987 version may be pack pulled, but most autos are redemption and it should not be possible to pack pull those versions signed or not.

I would venture a guess those are proofs or possibly even a fantasy card because the certified writing should be stamped and there should be more clarity on that it is an auto card on the reverse.

If signed versions do surface when the redemptions are processed, they were likely backdoored extras from the production run to replace any damage.

I looked on ebay and the amount of postings that seller had makes it impossible he would have randomly pulled 33 unsigned error cards that should not exist in the general public and list all at the same time.

I may return them because 150 is a good chunk of cash for proofs or run extras, Just an opinion.

EDIT: From looking closer it looks like the cards are stamped and the logo is foiled. Leaning more to backdoored. I would like to see the redemption checklist to see if these are there to really help define it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I don't think signed versions of those cards exist. Those photos are the Judge SPs for that set and I have yet to see a signed version posted. I think the 1987 version may be pack pulled, but most autos are redemption and it should not be possible to pack pull those versions signed or not.

I would venture a guess those are proofs or possibly even a fantasy card because the certified writing should be stamped and there should be more clarity on that it is an auto card on the reverse.

If signed versions do surface when the redemptions are processed, they were likely backdoored extras from the production run to replace any damage.

I looked on ebay and the amount of postings that seller had makes it impossible he would have randomly pulled 33 unsigned error cards that should not exist in the general public and list all at the same time.

I may return them because 150 is a good chunk of cash for proofs or run extras, Just an opinion.

EDIT: From looking closer it looks like the cards are stamped and the logo is foiled. Leaning more to backdoored. I would like to see the redemption checklist to see if these are there to really help define it.

This is a general statement and not aimed at these cards. The better custom/fantasy card makers are good enough now that they are stamping and adding foil to cards.