Jay Publishing Baseball

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Posted By: RayB

I've started looking into this set of late and don't have too much info aside for what the Standard Catalog has to say about it.

Any collectors of the set out there that wish to share a sort of "primer" on the set?

What I know:
5x7 B&W Cards sold in team packs.
Issued late 50's, early sixties.
Two types; differentiated by text change on player/team names.

It would be really good to hear from anyone who has done extensive research on the set. It strikes me as an issue similar to Exhibits in its multiple year distribution.

Side note question involving the pack. If two packs have the same player on top; would all the subsequent players in the pack be identical too?
Is there a way to tell when (what date)an unopened pack was issued for sale?

Anyone?
RayB

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Posted By: Phil Garry

Ray:

These are basically impossible to differentiate from year-to-year (other than the two types that you mentioned). The only way to do it is to purchase complete team sets so you have a checklist but someone could still switch the photos out from another set picturing the same player pose. I decided not to get involved with them for this reason.

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Posted By: Rich Klein

We had an collector, who had done fastidious research on these items; break down the year the year of whom was issued in each year. We got as many in our data base as we could but some of the listings had to remain the way they were for various technological reasons. The next step would be for each card to be scanned/copied but such an endeavor although difficult is possible

Regards
Rich

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Posted By: Phil Garry

Richard is correct. The 2008 Beckett Almanac is the best resource for these sets and lists basically all of them with complete checklists for each team and year along with a sample photo of most of them.

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Posted By: RayB

Thanks. I noticed that the Standard Catalog does not differentiate year; just Type 1 and Type 2.

If you had an unopened pack would you know by the packaging what year of release is for that particular pack?

RayB

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Posted By: Bob Lemke

If you're talking about the hundreds (thousands?) of baggie-packed Jay team sets that have been on the market for the past 5+ years, they have all been 1961s.

The Standard Catalog has a virtually complete year-by-year checklist for each team in its data base, literally lacking only about 6-12 pix for completeness. However, because of lack of demand and space considerations it was never put into print. Perhaps an appeal to Don Fluckinger could get that data onto the next DVD edition.

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Posted By: RayB

Any chance a person could email for specifically that data?
Email address?
Thanks.
RayB

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Posted By: Bob Lemke

That data is locked in the bowels of an antiqued AS-400 data base. Other than creating a greenbar printout, I don't know how it could be accessed. I'd also guess that the owner would be hesitant to "give away" such data that may have some commercial value someday.

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

not really responsive to your posts, but it's hard for me to think of a better time to post these, which I won on ebay for my HOF type set in already slabbed condition for a whopping $4.95 each (far less than the cost of the oversized slabs themselves)

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

There are ways to get that information...

http://www.freesoft411.com/freeware/3270-emulation.html

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Posted By: CLAUDE

I have a problem even with the text. I have several that, based on the pose, are Type 2's but they have different type texts....some are bold print and some are finer print. So does the text really follow the year of issue? The Standard Catalog from a couple of years ago lists the poses from the different years (1958-62 and 1962-65) and thats how I determited the years on a lot of them, NOT the text difference. I also have a Giants team set in a brown mailer envelope with cards having both types of text but all are from the 1962-65 Type 2 due to the poses.

-Claude

Here is a scan of three that are all 1962-65 Type 2's ..note the text differences: