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Old 02-09-2008, 02:53 AM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

At this price, it might be worth taking a flier at but has anyone every seen anyone Autograph a card or anything this way?

Niles, Bo. AL

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Seems odd to me. I know autographers today like to put neat sayings like MVP or HOF which is a nice touch but the auto above seems more like someone putting a note on the card in case the lettering below becomes hard to read..

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Old 02-09-2008, 05:32 AM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I've seen white border tobacco cards with the name and city written or printed at the top, usually on cards where the cut was such that the normal caption at the bottom was either missing or partially missing.

When I first looked at this card, that is what I thought. But most of the caption is visible. Still, the writing is on the card the same way those miss-cut cards were marked.

The card is slightly miss-cut, so I think it isn't autographed, but someone has attempted to clearly identify the card.

Who would autograph a card by signing only their last name (did that artist formerly known as 'Prince' have baseball cards? Or Houdini??) , but would sign the town where they played?


I don't know, but I'm thinking that isn't an autograph. And maybe the seller is just hoping it is, instead of actually scamming.

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Old 02-09-2008, 05:49 AM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

The seller noted he sent the card to PSA/DNA for authentication and they would not authenticate.. but he noted COA in the Title.. which is mis leading because I didn't see anything in the description about a COA.

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Old 02-09-2008, 10:52 AM
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Posted By: Russ Bright

Abdul-Jabbar...


Kareem only signs his last names right now, and i could imagine that someone getting older and sick of autographs would think about signing the important part of their names... it DOES happen.. but this still looks fishy - i trust the seller I have bought and sold to him before and he's a pretty good guy... but not enough to buy...

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Niles died in 1953. I have only seen his autograph once, I believe, and this doesn't match. Plus, as someone else mentioned, it would have been a very odd way for a player to have signed.

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This is a good seller and I don't think there are any red flags on this sale based on the fact that this seller is being up front here. It is very bizarre, especially since we are talking about quite a minor figure here in the T206 world. I have never seen a signature as well (I have never looked or remember handling one) and there really is nothing wrong (IMO) in handling the possible authenticity in this manner, by both the seller and even PSA/DNA who rendered it without an opinion. It is bizarre to simply sign last names and I'm sure this gentleman probably received maybe four fan letters a week from his adoring fans to where he could probably add a first name as well.

And you are all forgetting the laziest of all athletes. Oscar Robertson who sloppily wrote "BIG O" on everything and when he finally signed his full name, it commanded a premium on the autograph circuit as it was unheard of this NBA great signing...his complete name!

DJ

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

I have handled Niles' signature (only once), and this bears no resemblance to the government postcard I owned. Sorry, I no longer have a scan to share, so you'll have to take my word for it. Incidentally, it's highly doubtful that an inconsequential player such as Niles would have received three or four autograph requests per week--more signatures would have survived if that was the case. Back then (late 1940's-early 1950's), only higher-profile players would have received such a "high" volume of fan mail.

I do agree that this seller's usual, more pedestrian offerings of signed 3X5s are on the up-and-up--I've purchased from him myself in the past. This piece is just an anomaly. I'd stay away from it.

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